Heroes (Kingdom, tradition, virtual, grace, blood)

[No*s]

Here's one of my favorites:

http://www.fatheralexander.org/bookl...ish/herman.htm

It's about St. Herman, who introduced Orthodoxy to Alaska. He wasn't killed in battle, or anything of the sort, but I still find his life quite heroic.

I tried to find a more abbreviated version of his life that I liked, but was unable to do so, so I'm posting a link .

There's also a man, a minor man in the narrative, that stood out to me in Polybius' histories, but for the life of me, I can't remember his name. He was a consul that shared generalship with a rather impetuous man. His peer pushed them into battle with Hannibal that they could not win on his day of command (Romans alternated between days of command). Since there was no way to really avoid battle, and he could not break camp and leave, he went ahead and led the doomed battle. Rather than stationing himself out of harm's way so that he might capitalize on his collegue's mistake, he fought on the forefront with the cavalry (the Carthagenian cavalry greatly outnumbered his) and died in battle. His collegue was condemned a fool and he hailed a hero after their battle was lost. The Romans saw the wisdom of his plan, outwait the Carthagenians, over his collegue's head-long rush for battle.

I'm going to continue to look for names, but since I can't remember them, I fear I may have to reread the third book of Polybius, which may take a bit . My apologies for that.

[huajiro]

Thanx for that No

[Doc]

Martin Luther King. Abraham Lincoln. Most people dealing with liberation and freedom. Ghandi especially.

[huajiro]

More heroes, more!!!

[cardero]

Huajiro,
mrscarrdero and I watched HERO last night and I could not stop thinking about you and your thread. Did that movie somehow inspire the reason you posted this topic. The only reason I ask is because it made me interested in heroes throughout the century as well.

[huajiro]

Actually, I have always been obsessed with them. It comes from all the stories when I was a kid. Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Ghandi, etc etc...I think we should all strive to be just like them.

I am sure we have all heard about the same ones in our history, I just want to learn about new ones, I think they deserve to be remembered.

[huajiro]

I have a new hero for you:

King Christian X of Denmark who disobeyed Hitler, and protected the Jews:

http://www.auschwitz.dk/docu/King.htm

If it is true...he his my hero.

I found some articles saying it wasn't....if you know, please tell me, here they are:

Mary Campbell (cc688@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
| I've come across a de-bunking of a story that I had always accepted as
| true, and am curious to know how the story started.
|
| I've just been to an exhibit commemmorating a mass escape of Danish Jews
| from Nazi-occupied Denmark to neutral Sweden, organized by the Danish
| resistance.
|
| One of the posters in the exhibit mentions the story that Christian X,
| then King of Denmark, when told by the Nazis that Danish Jews must wear
| the Star of David, said that he and his family would wear the Star of
| David also.
|
| I've heard this story before, always presented as fact, but according to
| this poster the story is a "myth" and Christian X said no such thing (no
| other information is supplied).
|
| The exhibit was put together by the Danish National Museum and the Museum
| of Danish Resistance 1940-1945, who presumably should know what they're
| talking about.




In fact, the Danish Jews never did have to wear the star while in Denmark. Those who were sent to concentration camps were forced to wear the star at the camps. (The story about most Danish Jews being helped to safety in Sweden is, fortunately, quite true.) | So -- if this is indeed a UL, does anyone know how it got started, and by| whom?

It's never easy and generally not possible to say who started such legends. We may be able to say that the earliest published source appears to be X, but the person who wrote X probably heard it from somewhere else. It's not impossible that this story grows out of Allied war propaganda, which not surprisingly was written to make Allied countries and their leaders look like a real great bunch of folks. Truth sometimes gets stretched in war... Or it could have grown out of the fact that Danes had a great deal of pride in and affection for Christian X. Compared to some of the leaps we see in urban folklore, "If the Jews here had been made to wear yellow stars, the King would have worn one, too!" isn't far from "The Jews were made to wear yellow stars, so the King wore one, too!" One variant of the story states that the King wasn't really wearing a star, but a yellow flower in his lapel. This parallels a real incident in Norway, and there may have been a similar incident in Denmark for all i know. In Norway the royal family left the country. (As did the government, which means that the Norwegian armed forces surrendered, but not the Norwegian government or state - an interesting little twist that makes Norwegian war history a bit more complicated.) Not unrelatedly, all public expressions of support for the royal family were banned. However, on King Haakon's 70th birthday, a large number of men wore flowers in their lapels (as they would have if the King had been home) and were arrested as a result. The flower-in-the-lapel story seemed to have jumped the Kattegat and blended in with the King-wearing-yellow-star story. Maybe.

[huajiro]

I would think Jewscout would have liked my previous post

[linwood]

Originally Posted by huajiro

The Saint Patrick's Brigade:

SAN PATRICIO - THE IRISHMEN WHO DIED FOR MEXICO
by John Vincent


An Irish Batallion unique in military history.

Thank you Huajiro.

I had no idea.

[huajiro]

No problem Linwood....pretty cool eh?

Jewscout....I am waiting for your input on the last hero I put....I have another that is realted for you.