Witnessing a miracle (Revelation, experience, God, miracles, science)

[Ardent Listener]

Originally Posted by linwood

I want to apologise for my post #6 in this thread.

Not because I believe it is wrong but because I think I may have destroyed the purpose of Robs thread by causing those who might have a story to share with him to have reason not to speak of their miracle.
I won`t post here again unless directly spoken to and I won`t critique or speak any opinion on anything anyone else posts here.

I apparently began typing before I began thinking.

I won`t ridcule anyone .

My apologies, especially to Rob.

It is very nice of you to realize that and "eat a little crow". I mean that with even more respect for you and your point.

I had an amputation of my left big toe due to a stage 3 melanoma. A friend of mine was trying to cheer me up said, "Maybe your toe will grow back." I thought about it and then I realized that if my toe were to start to grow back by some miracle, the doctors would have thought it was cancer and would have taken even more of my foot off. Sometimes God just can't win.

[Ardent Listener]

I don't want to get to far off of the topic, but I just wanted to say that not all "miracles" are due to an answer to prayers. The "miracle" that happened to me just happened and no one prayed for it. In fact, I was rather Agnostic at the time. The miracle that occured in the life of my mother was a reply to prayers through the intercession of the Holy Mother.

Having experienced a "miracle" dose not always change you into a saint or to become super religious. I often find that I seem to try to put mine out of my mind. My mother is a good person but she is not all that religous.

[YmirGF]

To ardent_listenter,

Please do not think I would attack anything so special in a person's life. I for one would love to hear more about your miracles.

Originally Posted by michel

Hehe, a very predictable answer from you, my friend.

*looks around innocently* Hehe, Michel, am I that transparent, not that there is anything wrong with being predicatible, LOL.

Originally Posted by michel

Originally Posted by michel

Now to me, that proved something 'above the understanding of science' (it sure as heck wasn't placebo; I know it was the reiki). [These two addressed to YmirGF, in particular.]
Great shame; as I said to Jonny, I believe that no matter how often you are made a fool of, you must give air to what you believe.......but I understand your point....It just reminds me a little about the bit in the Bible about not hiding your light under a bushell ?????

I get your point too, Michel, and I am getting pretty used to feeling foolish. I did not mean to make that quite so anti-healing as it may have come across. I simply meant to say that I do not focus on healing, per se. At the risk of sounding like a total putz, I am far more into wellness, rather than illness. Another thing I believe in very strongly is the body's ability to heal itself (ie. auto-correct).

I have not focused on "healing" simply because I am normally a very healthy, no... disgustingly healthy person.

I am not intending to label all "faith" healing as wishful thinking, (Reiki does sound worthy of investigation). I am disturbed by the potential for innocents following misquided people (quacks, charlatans), taking their advice and unintentionally causing themselves more harm.

Curiously Michel, I remember almost writing in my original post in this thread...
"If anyone has witnessed natural childbirth... how much more evidence of miracles do you need?"

[Atheist_Dave]

Having never believed in a religion I have never seen miracles as biblical. I tend to use the term loosely for things happening against the odds, such as the eye, the brain, and love "whether that be religious or not) So I suppose I have witnessed miracles. That is my opinion at the moment anyway, no doubt in my life things will happen to make me consider that someone is watching me....its probably just my mum though, sheesh.

[Feathers in Hair]

I just wanted to applaud those who were willing to recognize that their post was in the 'discussion' section. I think it was brave of you, kind- hearted, and showed a willingness to participate in something that I think is one of the most wonderful aspects of RF- that we can have a discussion without it turning into a debate.

I've experienced several things that could be described as a miracle (especially by the definitions that have been presented here). To be honest, though, they've made me more uneasy than satisfied. It was as if I was willing to hear about people being able to do things that were currently inexplicable and believe that it had happened, but when it's happened to me, it's made me nervous and slightly queasy.

I don't know why this is, still.

I'm kind of the nature that I think most everything's a miracle, though. Life, even with its horrors, is incredible enough as it is. It's a disservice, in my opinion, to consider it anything less.