Organ donation (religions, science) - Page 5

Apotheosis · #41 08-31-2005, 09:40 AM

As soon as possible, I will become an organ donor, the way I see it, I no longer need them, so if someone could use my organs then they're welcome to it.

jamaesi · #42 08-31-2005, 10:44 AM

From post 5.

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Some seemed to have very strong views; they wanted their loved ones burried with all their organs

I find that that sentiment very immature- for good reason. Where did I bash religion? I´m very curious.

michel · #43 08-31-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaesi

From post 5.

I find that that sentiment very immature- for good reason. Where did I bash religion? I´m very curious.

Who think's you're bashing religion?

Majikthise · #44 08-31-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

I believe in organ donation too, but this seems awfully rude and a bit arrogant for you to call people selfish because their beliefs are different from yours.

Organ donation is a very personal decision for some people.

This was quoted in another post with other quotes that did not specify who made the quotes. This was actually posted by CX, but was with quotes from Aqualung responding to some one else.....confusion.

I was actually defending jamaesi's position but was only tagged for not wanting to adress the remark about immaturity because I was trying to focus on the nonsensical remarks made toward gays that have nothing to do with this subject.

Make sense?

I need a drink.

Aqualung · #45 08-31-2005, 10:55 PM

Well, I guess you didn't specifically say religion. But since another person said that he didn't want to donate due to religion, and then you said that not to donate was selfish, this seemed rather much to me like you were calling him selfish because of a religious preference to not donate his organs.

Majikthise · #46 08-31-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

Well, I guess you didn't specifically say religion. But since another person said that he didn't want to donate due to religion, and then you said that not to donate was selfish, this seemed rather much to me like you were calling him selfish because of a religious preference to not donate his organs.

Thank you!!

What he said!!!

mr.guy · #47 09-01-2005, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy

Does anyone believe organ donation should be mandatory? The reasoning being that a body cannot have rights once dead since the person is no longer in possession of their body.

Absolutely not. A will has to be executed, no? I think that might be a good example of someone exerting their rights from the beyond...
But my objection rests on being able to decide for myself what's good, indepently from the government. Perhaps the state can draw some ultimatums about what's unacceptable, but i should like to reserve myself some freedom to decide about what's selfish, rather than be subject to obligatory social contribution. The best solution is a culture that is more accepting and enthusiastic about organ donation (or social responsibility in general).

Fluffy · #48 09-01-2005, 04:25 AM

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Absolutely not. A will has to be executed, no? I think that might be a good example of someone exerting their rights from the beyond...

I do not know of any religious or scientific system that suggests that once a person is dead, they exert any influence or authority over the decaying corpse that once was them. But lets just say that after I die, I do still continue to exist, independent of my rotting body, obviously, and so still are able to execute a will. Even then, why would I have a right to have my wishes respected over an object that I no longer have any ties to?

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But my objection rests on being able to decide for myself what's good, indepently from the government. Perhaps the state can draw some ultimatums about what's unacceptable, but i should like to reserve myself some freedom to decide about what's selfish, rather than be subject to obligatory social contribution. The best solution is a culture that is more accepting and enthusiastic about organ donation (or social responsibility in general).

I share a similar train of thought to you, mr.guy. I am just unable to hold to such a belief, that people should be given the opportunity to choose good rather than being forced to do it, when people choose to be selfish and, as a direct consequence people die.

mr.guy · #49 09-01-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy

I do not know of any religious or scientific system that suggests that once a person is dead, they exert any influence or authority over the decaying corpse that once was them. But lets just say that after I die, I do still continue to exist, independent of my rotting body, obviously, and so still are able to execute a will. Even then, why would I have a right to have my wishes respected over an object that I no longer have any ties to?

No religion, necessarily. I'm refering to a "last will and testement" and "enduring power of attorney". I don't need to exist in any fashion to have my will carried out. That's a legal obligation.

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Originally Posted by Fluffy

I share a similar train of thought to you, mr.guy. I am just unable to hold to such a belief, that people should be given the opportunity to choose good rather than being forced to do it, when people choose to be selfish and, as a direct consequence people die.

I wonder, what other goodness would you make enforecable under the law? Required prayer? Burkas for women? Happy thoughts?