Organ donation (religions, science)

[michel]

Originally Posted by Todd

I have gone back and forth on this subject. My view (when I was 18 through 25) was that if God decides to raise our body to heaven, how would he find all our organs. Then I thought, if God is all powerful, he would find a way (although, we probably wont need organs in heaven), so now I agree to Organ Donation to help others. I know this might sound funny or goofy, but this is what I thought.

I just think it is good to help others, and God would reward us for that.

Whether or not he would reward us is, IMO immaterial; the part I find difficult is that I am happy to give up a kidney, part of my liver (go well with musrooms and bacon )- but my family are adamant that I ought not to. I think that the 'nearest and dearest' ought to have input - but there again, that will no doubt be from an emotional stance.

[Fluffy]

Jamaesi,

I can understand your way of thinking, and I myself would agreed with you (from a personal point of view), but Lintu makes the point that the Jewish do not believe in the body being tampered with after death.

You would have to make allowances for religious beliefs, surely.[img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

If a religion thought that it was right to murder all of a given minority, it is arguable that an allowance should not be made. Some religious people think that, because of their religion, homosexual marriage should be illegal. Where allowance for them should be given is in debate at the moment.

Organ doning is also quite a serious issue since it could save a lot of lives and since life and death is and issue, allowance again comes into question.

[jamaesi]

Fluffy said it better than I could, Michel.

[michel]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

Fluffy said it better than I could, Michel.

I actually did not fully understand what Fluffy meant; you would feel no duty to observe other's wishes in this context ? -I am not saying that I think that wrong; I am open minded; I just find it difficult to equate a rule with the emotions over the death of a loved one.

Fluffy will be well aware (I should imagine) of the problems we faced here in England, when it transpired that, without the parent's permission, organs from dead infants had been kept by the hospitals, for teaching purposes. When the public found out, parents came in from every corner, to demand that the organs that had been retained be interred with their children.

That's not what I would feel (I think) - but I am always conscious of others' feelings.

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by michel

You would have to make allowances for religious beliefs, surely.

I think that you would. But that begs the question, how far do religious rights trump others? What if your religioun stated that you had to kill you first born. Then you would get sentenced with murder. How far should one go to allow religion to trump government.

[Fluffy]

Originally Posted by michel

That's not what I would feel (I think) - but I am wlways conscious of others' feelings.[img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ah I see what you mean. Yes I agree with you. I would sympathise and respect their beliefs. I just wouldn't cause such feelings to affect the law which is where I misunderstood.

[Majikthise]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

Where did I say that /religious/ belief was immature?

Post #5 of this thread.

[Majikthise]

Originally Posted by Majikthise

Post #5 of this thread.

At least aqualung took it that way.

[Bastet]

Originally Posted by michel

I think that the 'nearest and dearest' ought to have input - but there again, that will no doubt be from an emotional stance.

I have been a registered organ donor since I hit 18. I have a little card in my wallet saying so. I'm pretty sure my immediate family knows this. So if, in their hour of grief, they decided to deny what was in effect my dying wish, you can be sure that I would be ****** off enough to haunt them for life. Sometimes the 'nearest and dearest' only have their own interests in mind (especially if they are coming from an emotional stance), and should just butt out. Anyone who is a registered organ donor should have their wishes honored, regardless of what the family wants.