Organ donation (religions, science)

[Majikthise]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

There is if you think that god told you not to part with them. What would you think if I said "that's very selfish of you to have a gay lover. Men need the women more than you do." You would probably find that very rude, because you think it's natural to have that sort of relationship, and that the best road to take is to follow what is natural, instead of twisting things. People who don't want to donate their organs because of religion think that is the best road to take, because they don't want to twist what God wants of them, and what is consequently "natural," in a sense.

So if someone in your family would die without one of your kidneys, and you could spare it, you would let them die because god told you to? Or is it different because they are a member of your family and it is ok with god? I would think a loving god would want to save any life any way possible. The logic does not ring true.
I am not defending the comment about religious beliefs being immature, but the gay comment makes no sense whatsoever as applied to this subject. Religion is a chioce, sexual orientation is not.

I am donating my organs and the rest of me is to be cremated. Enough valuable land is wasted on cemetaries already.

[jamaesi]

But to call someone selfish because of their beleifs is cold, rude, and completely uncalled for.

You have a right to your beliefs- you don´t have the right to make everyone take you seriously.

I am not defending the comment about religious beliefs being immature

Where did I say that /religious/ belief was immature?

[michel]

It sounds like most of you guys are open to organ donation (and I understand those who don't believe in it because of ther faith - that is understandable). They were also debating, on this particular programme whether the donation of organs should be regulated by either

1) a card saying "I am prepared to donate my organs"
or 2) a card saying " I am not prepared to donate my organs"

I can see the point in the second option. Many people go through life thinking "It will never happen to me, I'll just die a natural death when everything in my body wears out."

Yet the shortage of Kidneys and hearts and lungs is awful here in England - I am sure the same can be said of most countries.

Which way would you be happier with seeing the system implemented?

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by Majikthise

So if someone in your family would die without one of your kidneys, and you could spare it, you would let them die because god told you to?

I would. if I actually beleived that God told me not to donate a kidney, then I would not save them. It would hurt, but if that were actually God's will, I would know that we would both be exalted in the next life.

Originally Posted by Majikthise

I would think a loving god would want to save any life any way possible.

So do I. I never said that I beleived that God told people they shouldn't donate organs, because I don't at all. I was just pointing out that it's rude to call someone selfish because of their religion, as religion is definitely above anything and everything.

Originally Posted by Majikthise

Religion is a chioce, sexual orientation is not.

So you say. But that's for a different thread.

Originally Posted by Majikthise

I am donating my organs and the rest of me is to be cremated. Enough valuable land is wasted on cemetaries already.

Good idea. I'm planning to donate my body to science, and then have it cremated.

[Feathers in Hair]

*editted to remove comments that were not appropriate for me to say in public, and I apologize*

[Fluffy]

Does anyone believe organ donation should be mandatory? The reasoning being that a body cannot have rights once dead since the person is no longer in possession of their body.

[jamaesi]

Does anyone believe organ donation should be mandatory? The reasoning being that a body cannot have rights once dead since the person is no longer in possession of their body.

I do.

[michel]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

I do.

Jamaesi,

I can understand your way of thinking, and I myself would agreed with you (from a personal point of view), but Lintu makes the point that the Jewish do not believe in the body being tampered with after death.

You would have to make allowances for religious beliefs, surely.