Banned from Debates/Discussions/Chat for being Pro-Gay (Jesus, reject)

[huajiro]

I believe the same discrimination happens to everyone and not just homosexuals. I am a Spanish-speaking caucasian, who doesn't eat meat, accepts homosexuals (and everyone else for that matter), doesn't have a specific religion, and accepts all. Can you even fathom the extent of my suffering in life?

Humans are animals. We need to be in herds ....er, groups.......if someone doesn't fit into any category perfectly, they are rejected. I was born without hatred, without prejudice. This makes me believe in a "God".....but keeps me from rejecting any religion, or individual. Unfortunately, it opens me to being judged by many, and being told I am burning in about every "Hell" that could exist.

In a nutshell, I understand your situation, I feel your pain. You can feel comfortable in knowing that there is at least one person on this planet that will never judge you for anything.

[Sabio]

Originally Posted by rainbowchristianqld

I'm not sure if many people know much about me, but here's a bit:
I became a christian in the year 2000 (when I was 18), it kind of happened that I "Fell" into it by co-incidence (or maybe Fate).
The other thing is: I'm gay (for as long as I can remember).
I'm now 23 years old and have gone through a lot, and can safely say that being Gay is not a choice and the Holy Spirit can fill a gay mans heart just as easily (if not -more) than a straight person's.
Christianity (for me) appears to "Not be a choice" now too (for reasons unknown to me), thus Christ has continued to be part of my life... and very happy that he is.

I enjoy sharing my experiences with other people on the internet (and even in person when I get the chance).

There is few websites (that should probably remain unknown), but they involved discussions and debates on christianity, homosexuality, marriage, rights, clergy, preaching, love, hate, world events/decisions (among other things).

It seems, Because of my view on "Helping Gay people" instead of "Condemning" or "Outcasting" them, some moderators/chat hosts etc... have decided to ban me from the websites, erase my posts or generally hound me with their anti-gay prejudices without even a "thought" that they might be wrong... (i'm kinda glad that this hasn't happened to me in person.... yet).

I'm not saying that I'm always 100% correct... or that my views aren't different to some other Christians. But I can't see the point of having a "Discussion" or "Debate" site when everybody that's aloud to reply has exactly the same views.

Any thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions? etc..?

Wondering if anyone else has experienced similar things (either on the net or in person), for reasons of being gay or otherwise. Explain how you felt or how you dealt with it, how it made you feel, what the issue was, things like that.

I look forward to having some interesting discussions with you on! You state that you are a Christian and recognize the infilling of the Holy Spirit, so be patient and open to God's leading, He will make many changes in your life as you grow in your relationship with Him, but He will not change you against your own free will. God will change you (and me) as He sees fit, remember He is the potter and we are the clay...

Sabio

[Todd]

Feel comforted, that you will not be banned here for this reason. While you might have some differences of opinion in this forum with other members (trust me, everyone has differences of opinions on this forum), you will still be respected and treated as equals. Welcome to the forum.

Todd

[rainbowchristianqld]

Originally Posted by michel

I suppose I can understand when you say .............."Christianity (for me) appears to "Not be a choice" now too (for reasons unknown to me), thus Christ has continued to be part of my life... and very happy that he is."................., and I wondered what you do consider yourself to be now - do you still think of yourself as Christian?

the last of that is kind of multilayered isn't it...

I guess the answer is, I don't "Think" i'm a Christian... I just "Am" a Christian. The same way that I don't "Think" i'm gay, I just am.

I am Gay, and I am Christian. The life of my Christianity is imbedded, just like my sexuality.

Originally Posted by melody

nothing will be permitted that contradicts Scripture...and they get to interpret scripture.

Yes, indeed... I have even provided more scriptures for condoning than they have for condemning, yet they don't want to wake up.

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

It relates to the whole 'choosing your battles' concept.

I agree.

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

This past week, our former youth director, now a youth minister, brought his group to visit our city and church. Both our chuches have choir directors who are gay, but their's hasn't spoken about it publicly, so they wanted to have an open discussion and learn more.

God Bless your Church, would love to find out more about it.

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

I'm 35, and a couple of others around my age commented that until we were in college, all we about gay people knew was Jack Tripper on 3's Company and local news coverage of the 'Gay Pride Parade'. Most of the youths had a friend or relative who was openly gay.

Before I was 18, all I ever saw of gay people was the "Sydney Mardi Gras" on TV, and even then - it was very very small snipits of it because Mum or Dad never wanted to watch it. Quite odd being a Gay teenager (the only gay in the villiage) and trying to relate your self to "Those People". No regrets though.

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Just like you can be an adultering christian, or an angry christian

Yeah, Let's compare a Christian (that all they've done is - not be able to "choose" who they fall in love with) to all sorts of hard hearted, lustful, hurtful and mean people. (sorry bout the sarcasm there).

[Original Freak]

it was very very small snipits of it because Mum or Dad never wanted to watch it. Quite odd being a Gay teenager (the only gay in the villiage)

I doubt that...were you out of the closet then? I imagine there was one or two others still hunkered in the back.

[michel]

rainbowchristianqld,
......"I am Gay, and I am Christian. "..................

The above is what I was looking for you to say - that states your 'Case' with complete clarity.

As Far as my Christianity is concerned, I can only quote:-

Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

I have nothing to forgive you for, because you have never done anything to me that needs to be forgiven; I think the two first phrases state my stance.

I can only echo Huajiro's sentiments, in which he said:-
............"In a nutshell, I understand your situation, I feel your pain. You can feel comfortable in knowing that there is at least one person on this planet that will never judge you for anything."...............

Well, for what it counts, there are at least two........

[Feathers in Hair]

I just wanted to jump in and welcome you to the site! *hugs*

[Snowbear]

Originally Posted by CMIYC

I To think that god, that would have taken offence for poor eyesight would allow homosexuals into heaven which are less perfect, in my mind is absurd.

Hmmmm.... I'm not gay. But I'm faaaarrrrrrr from perfect. In fact, I'm probably less perfect than most homosexuals I've met. Yet somehow, I'm still assured I'm going to heaven..... How cool is that!?!?!?!

[CMIYC]

Snowbear

I appreciate your reply and yes, I am less then perfect as well, probably more less then the rest of you here. Not only do I lack the compassion and understanding of my fellow man or woman but I also wear glasses. So there you go! I’m not bitter that this imperfection will result in my eternal death.. The law has been set long before my birth and that law is” never changing”. There are different types of laws we have to deal with every day; the human law, your desired church law, and god’s law. Apart from god’s law, all other laws can be manipulated to comfort our needs. I could have answered in a compassionate way, but that would result in deceiving and hiding the truth of one god, as it is written in the bible.

[Mister Emu]

Yeah, Let's compare a Christian (that all they've done is - not be able to "choose" who they fall in love with) to all sorts of hard hearted, lustful, hurtful and mean people. (sorry bout the sarcasm there).

There is no comparison, all sin is equal.