Vegetarians and vegans and questions thereon (moral, blood, evolve, creation)

[Quoth The Raven]

Originally Posted by Natural Submission

Unlike other species on this planet, mankind eats flesh foods while we have flat front teeth, such as those possessed by a horse, cow, rabbit and the like. No natural omnivore or carnivore has flat front teeth. Likewise, no omnivore or carnivore has even close to as long a digestive tract as a human being. That is because herbivores take longer to breakdown and process the plant matter which they consume, while flesh eating animals must quickly expel the putrid flesh matter from their digestive tract. Accordingly, the consequences of this slow human digestion of flesh foods is one of the greatest causes of disease, sickness and premature death of human beings.
Unlike animals which God designed to be omnivores and carnivores, human beings can not run and catch their prey, nor do we salivate upon sight of the living animals which we consume. We associate only the cooked or processed form of their flesh as "food" while we associate the living animal beings as "animals." Likewise, we sweat, as do all herbivores, while omnivores and carnivores always pant. Clearly these are signs for those who reflect.
Even if mankind could run and catch the animals they seek to kill and eat, we have no sharp claws, nor elongated sharp teeth with which to tear into the flesh of the animal. Again, this is not the case for any animal which God designed to eat flesh foods. Truly God is the best of Planners, the best of Creators, whose design is without flaw. Your arguement holds no scientific ground.

Gee, I'm not too sure that you can use the words 'God is the best of Creators, whose design is without flaw,' as an argument and then tell the person you're directing the post at that their argument holds no scientific ground. Last I heard God and his grand plan were a little lacking on the scientific front.

[Natural Submission]

Originally Posted by lady_lazarus

Last I heard God and his grand plan were a little lacking on the scientific front.

You heard wrong, anything that contradicts science is not of God.

[Quoth The Raven]

Originally Posted by Natural Submission

You heard wrong, anything that contradicts science is not of God.

I know some people about the place who would strongly disagree with you there. Last I heard there wasn't a lot of scientific theory about that supports your concept of 'devolution'.

[Quoth The Raven]

Originally Posted by Natural Submission

Unlike other species on this planet, mankind eats flesh foods while we have flat front teeth, such as those possessed by a horse, cow, rabbit and the like. No natural omnivore or carnivore has flat front teeth. Likewise, no omnivore or carnivore has even close to as long a digestive tract as a human being. That is because herbivores take longer to breakdown and process the plant matter which they consume, while flesh eating animals must quickly expel the putrid flesh matter from their digestive tract. Accordingly, the consequences of this slow human digestion of flesh foods is one of the greatest causes of disease, sickness and premature death of human beings.
Unlike animals which God designed to be omnivores and carnivores, human beings can not run and catch their prey, nor do we salivate upon sight of the living animals which we consume. We associate only the cooked or processed form of their flesh as "food" while we associate the living animal beings as "animals." Likewise, we sweat, as do all herbivores, while omnivores and carnivores always pant. Clearly these are signs for those who reflect.
Even if mankind could run and catch the animals they seek to kill and eat, we have no sharp claws, nor elongated sharp teeth with which to tear into the flesh of the animal. Again, this is not the case for any animal which God designed to eat flesh foods. Truly God is the best of Planners, the best of Creators, whose design is without flaw. Your arguement holds no scientific ground.

Lets not even get into a discussion about the teeth of the chimpanzee, or the fact that omnivores have 4 seperate tooth structures (and bugger me dead if we don't too!), do you honestly think that if a cheetah had an opposable thumb and access to a rifle it'd be streaking across the savannah after a gazelle? No, it'd be cosied up in a hunting blind with a couple of beers and a magazine, waiting for them to come to it.

[Natural Submission]

Originally Posted by lady_lazarus

I know some people about the place who would strongly disagree with you there. Last I heard there wasn't a lot of scientific theory about that supports your concept of 'devolution'.

This was a mystical statement

[Natural Submission]

Originally Posted by lady_lazarus

Lets not even get into a discussion about the teeth of the chimpanzee, or the fact that omnivores have 4 seperate tooth structures (and bugger me dead if we don't too!), do you honestly think that if a cheetah had an opposable thumb and access to a rifle it'd be streaking across the savannah after a gazelle? No, it'd be cosied up in a hunting blind with a couple of beers and a magazine, waiting for them to come to it.

Yes unfortunately some are ungrateful for the bleesing they've been given. We have been given the ability to think. i know studying about complex plant strutures and vitamins and herbs is pretty difficult for some. It is easier to kill and rip apart flesh, than to think in a sober state. We should be moving forward, not backward.

When the Messiah returns, mankind will awaken to the Messianic Consciousness and a child will be able to put his head in a lions mouth as he plays with the serpants. All will awaken. This may seem like a farfetched story for some, but for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, this will be a scientific fact.

[Quoth The Raven]

Originally Posted by Natural Submission

Yes unfortunately some are ungrateful for the bleesing they've been given. We have been given the ability to think. i know studying about complex plant strutures and vitamins and herbs is pretty difficult for some. It is easier to kill and rip apart flesh, than to think in a sober state. We should be moving forward, not backward.

When the Messiah returns, mankind will awaken to the Messianic Consciousness and a child will be able to put his head in a lions mouth as he plays with the serpants. All will awaken. This may seem like a farfetched story for some, but for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, this will be a scientific fact.

Quite frankly, I can study all the botany in the world, but I still like steak. And chops. And dismembered little chickens crumbed and fried in hot oil. They go very nicely with a plate of steamed vegies.
By the way, I notice you have no objection to lions being carnivores, so we may awaken to whatever conciousness you like, but I'm thinking any kiddie goes around putting his head in the lions mouth is likely to get it eaten off. The serpents would probably clap, but snakes have no arms, that's why they don't wear vests.
But you still haven't answered the question that this thread posed, which was what happens to all the cows when we stop eating them, other than to say, that's not important now.