Family Planning Centers Child Abuse Cover-Up Scandal (moral, choice, hell)

[johnnys4life]

Planned Parenthood, NAF and the child sex abuse cover-up.

According to the most reliable studies, among girls 15 and younger who become pregnant, between 60 and 80 percent of them are impregnated by adult men.

As the age of the victim goes down, the age of the perpetrator, statistically, goes up.

In America today, we have reached the point where a junior high school girl is about 5 times more likely to become pregnant by an adult than by someone close to her own age.

One study concluded that the average age of men who father children with girls under 14 is now higher than the average age of men who father children with 18-year-olds.
http://www.childpredators.com/ReadReport.cfm

"With the information we now have, it is simply undeniable that Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation have made a conscious decision to conceal the sexual exploitation of children and protect the men who commit these crimes.

We have uncovered an overwhelming body of statistical evidence showing that the rate at which these two organizations fail to comply with mandatory reporting laws is in excess of 90 percent.

This data was obtained from government sources, medical journals, independent researchers and the abortion industry itself."




It is illegal in all 50 states for a 22-year-old man to have sex with a 13-year-old girl, not only

is it statutory rape, it's child abuse. It is also illegal for health care officials NOT to

report these cases to the police at once. They do not have to have hard evidence, that is for the courts to decide, if they even SUSPECT statutory rape or sex abuse is going on, they are REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT those suspicions. Otherwise they would be helping a rapist or pedophile get away with it. Does Planned parenthood know that? Absolutely. Do they care? Apparently not.

Recently, a pro-life group, Life Dynamics, exposed Planned Parenthood for what they are. But before I get a bunch of guff from people who are going to claim that this is wrong JUST BECAUSE Life Dynamics hates Planned Parenthood, well, they may have hate them, but they aren't liars, that's WHY they did this in the first place, the evidence they found is clear as crystal.

Listen to what happend, and look at the evidence for yourself. They didn't make this up, they exposed it, and PP isn't even denying that! As I'm sure you've all noticed, I've got a pretty big vendetta against them too, but
I am more interested in facts than propaganda!

Listen to the actual tapes of these phone conversations, yourself, and you decide. Go to:

http://www.childpredators.com/

The tapes don't lie, but Planned Parenthood does!

[johnnys4life]

One pro-life group's undercover investigation obtained over 800 taped conversations with Planned

Parenthood and National Abortion Federation clinics all across America, which prove that Planned

Parenthood and NAF fail to comply with the law. They ignore the law even in cases of child sex

abuse where statutory rape is disclosed and acknowledged - not just suspected. These tapes have

already been used in court by one state to defend their parental involvement law against a Planned

Parenthood lawsuit.

And just to show I am looking at this from both sides, here is what a "pro-choice" group,

womensenews, had to say about these tapes:

"Life Dynamics claims that it conducted a telephone survey of clinics in February and March of

this year. Following a script, a Life Dynamics representative posed as a 13- or 14-year-old girl,

and told clinic receptionists who fielded the calls that she thought she might be pregnant by her

22-year-old boyfriend. Pretending to be seeking an appointment for a pregnancy test or an

abortion, she obtained from staff at the clinics a promise of confidentiality. Now, Life Dynamics

claims in its report that clinics violated state laws requiring "mandatory reporting" of child

sexual abuse. These laws vary by state, but typically require professionals who have contact with

children--such as teachers, physicians and sometimes clergy--to report any evidence of child abuse

to law enforcement authorities.

A Fox News story about the tapes, and a Connecticut Planned Parenthood clinic receptionist's

advice to the caller not to say anything about the age of her boyfriend, led to an investigation

by the state's attorney's office last spring. Planned Parenthood was advised to train its staff in

the area of statutory rape (sex between underage girls and older boys or men, which is illegal,

even if the sex is consensual), but no charges were filed. The 13-year-old girl and the

22-year-old boyfriend did not exist; there was no crime, nothing to report."

They completely missed the point! The fact that Planned Parenthood DID NOT KNOW that the girl was

testing them and not actually the victim of a child predator, and yet deliberately concealed her

own reports of a definite case of statutory rape, 49 states, is proof enough that this is

happening to OTHER, real callers.

Other "pro-choice" groups still vehemently hold to PP's innocence with religious fervor, claiming

that Planned Parenthood was "targeted" and "enticed" to break the law. LISTEN TO THE TAPES

YOURSELF and you judge that. It is illegal for them, as mandatory reporters, NOT to call the cops

right then and there and report what the girl told them about being sexually abused by an older

man. Instead, they simply told her to "not bring him into the clinic" and "don't tell anyone his

age".

They completely missed the point! The fact that Planned Parenthood DID NOT KNOW that the girl was

testing them and not actually being victimized, and yet deliberately concealed her own reports of

child expoitation, in 49 states, is proof enough that this is happening to OTHER, real callers.

Does anyone not get that just because these calls were staged, that doesn't mean the real ones are

treated any differently! These people are covering-up for pedophiles and causing young girls to

continue to be sexually abused, which will absolutely RUIN THIER LIVES! Nothing has changed, PP

got a slap on the wrist and continued on it's way. When a young girl is in trouble, they

certainly aren't going to be there to get her out of it. What if it were your daughter?

[w00t]

In the UK it is illegal to have sex with a girl under 16. However, in practice, the police only prosecute if the man is quite a lot older than the girl.

[Jaymes]

Sooo... what's stopping the pregnant girl from lying and saying that a 13 year old boy banged her up?

Would you suggest Planned Parenthood beat the truth out of them?

[Quoth The Raven]

Picture this: you have a 13 year old girl who rings up family planning saying 'I think I'm pregnant to my 22 year old boyfriend.' Being you're average 13 year old, she's beside herself about the whole thing, but she's 'in love' with the 22 year old and doesn't want to get him in to trouble.
Does the operator then say to the girl,'Sorry, we're going to report him.' thereby making the 13 year old disappear into the ether and try some sort of potentially dangerous and life threatening manner of ending her possible pregnancy? Or, does the operator say,'Of course it's all confidential,' thereby getting the girl to actually come into a clinic to confirm the suspected pregnancy. Once she's there you can counsel her on the correct course to take...if you don't tell her what she wants to hear you'll never have the opportunity to do anything else.
(I can see the conversation now:
"Hello, police? I want to report a case of child abuse. Yes, a 13 year old who has been having sex with a 22 year old has just called the clinic. No, I don't know who she is...when I told her there was mandatory reporting she hung up. What do you mean, what do I expect you to do? There can't be that many 13 year old girls out there...go find her!')
I read in another thread something about you having had a psychology text book at some point...perhaps the basic principles are diferent between Australia and the US (which I somehow doubt), but when I was at university studying psychology, one of the things we learned was that not only is there more than one way to skin a cat, it's pretty impossible to practice any of them if you can't catch the damned cat first.
If they'd bothered to send their fictional 13 year old into the clinic instead of taking what is actually quite a sensible practice when dealing with distressed young people as proof positive of unlawful behaviour, there may have been quite an unexpected end result.

[linwood]

Hmm.

I recently learned that the Grumacher Institute is actually run by Planned parenthood.

The last grummacher report on teen pregnacy exposed the fact that ...

" As the age of the victim goes down, the age of the perpetrator, statistically, goes up."

Therefore Planned Parenthood publicly published this fact for all the world to see.

Not a real good cover-up.

[johnnys4life]

Lady Lazarus, you obviously didn't even listen to the tapes.


They repeatedly told the girl what was happening to her was not rape, they repeatedly told her

DO NOT BRING HIM IN OR TELL ANYONE YOUR AGE OR HIS AGE WHEN YOU COME IN. Yeah, it really sounds like they were trying to catch him. Give me a break. The truth is they see nothing wrong with adult-on-child sex. It's in thier very philosophy.

Take a look at this:
Planned Parenthood at one point or another has also endorsed child sexual abuse. Note the following:
"What do we know about situations in which young children and older people, stronger people, have had a sexual relationship of one kind or another that has been pleasant, and the child feels good about it because it's warm and seductive and tender?"
(Mary Calderone on panel: "Childhood, the First Season: Nurturing Sexual Awakening" discussion of masturbation, sex play, sexual abuse, nudity and body image issues. SSSS Eastern Region Conference. April 20, 1985)

"... incest between adults and younger children can also prove to be a satisfying and enriching experience. Incestuous relationships can -- and do -- work out well."
-- Wardell B. Pomeroy of Planned Parenthood. "A New Look at Incest," Forum Magazine, November 1976, pages 84 to 89.

As far as I know, these people still work for PP. But why should this surprise anyone? They are an evil company, and always have been. It's not like they are trying to broadcast thier views on child sex, they tend to keep it quiet for the most part, using ambiguous statements like "child sexual exploration is a normal part of growing up". They don't mention it as much because there are still a FEW people in PP who DON'T approve of it, though they are getting overuled by those who do. And as for them not covering it up with AGI, they probably had a different motive for revealing that bit of information.


Sheesh, you guys unequivocally, ALWAYS have to stand up for you beloved Planned Parenthood. Sometimes I think you are doing it just to argue. No one could be dumb enough or immoral enough to agree with all the things they are doing.

[hoomer]

the Problem with the pro life stance is.....they still believe the antiquated idea that best kept in the dark means safer....sorry....that approach is wrong...

in England the government trying an experiment...they taught NO sex ed 1 year to see what woud hapen...amongst this group teenage pregnancy skyrocketed......

reality check..people have sex.....reality check underage p[eople drink alcohol AND have sex....

reality check.....the Virgin Mary from christianity was 14 when she was a mother....

I think you need to look at your own inner hatred toward others...and act like a christian...

But then what do I know...I'm just a liberal......

"I like your Christ, I do not like your christians. Your christians are so unlike your Christ" ---Ghandi

[hoomer]

if PP are really advocating rape and incest then...I agree at your reaction....I just dont think they are...but who kno knows maybe they are evil immora nasty foks!...and the Pope is called Bob too....

[Scorn]

My post is NOT to be construed as condoning incest or rape.

Originally Posted by johnnys4life

The truth is they see nothing wrong with adult-on-child sex. It's in thier very philosophy.

Take a look at this:
Planned Parenthood at one point or another has also endorsed child sexual abuse. Note the following:
"What do we know about situations in which young children and older people, stronger people, have had a sexual relationship of one kind or another that has been pleasant, and the child feels good about it because it's warm and seductive and tender?"
(Mary Calderone on panel: "Childhood, the First Season: Nurturing Sexual Awakening" discussion of masturbation, sex play, sexual abuse, nudity and body image issues. SSSS Eastern Region Conference. April 20, 1985)

Johnnys, what is the context fro this statement please? Those with an agenda to refute seem to have cherrypicked quotes to support the cause.

"What do we know about situations in which young children and older people, stronger people, have had a sexual relationship of one kind or another that has been pleasant, and the child feels good about it because it's warm and seductive and tender?"

Seems like a reasonable question for a researcher to ask. Without context we have no idea what the intent was. You can spin it anyway you like but it's meaningless without it.

Originally Posted by johnnys4life

"... incest between adults and younger children can also prove to be a satisfying and enriching experience. Incestuous relationships can -- and do -- work out well."
-- Wardell B. Pomeroy of Planned Parenthood. "A New Look at Incest," Forum Magazine, November 1976, pages 84 to 89.

Again, what is the context of this? What came before this quote. I was able to find it many times on google in pages that support PP bashing but I could never find it with any context. You would think that it would make a much better argument regarding agenda were it framed properly.

As far as I know, these people still work for PP. But why should this surprise anyone?

As far as I can find, Pomeroy never worked "for" PP. there is only a single reference to him on their website, in a bibliography. He died in 2001. There is no reference to him in their history.

They are an evil company, and always have been. It's not like they are trying to broadcast thier views on child sex, they tend to keep it quiet for the most part, using ambiguous statements like "child sexual exploration is a normal part of growing up". They don't mention it as much because there are still a FEW people in PP who DON'T approve of it, though they are getting overuled by those who do.
If the FEW who appose it are getting overruled then wouldn't it be mentioned more - not less?

Sheesh, you guys unequivocally, ALWAYS have to stand up for you beloved Planned Parenthood.
Perhaps it's more about exposing flawed research as many agenda laden sites will happily use as amunition. A point you have rised often as well.

Sometimes I think you are doing it just to argue. No one could be dumb enough or immoral enough to agree with all the things they are doing.
Don't discount that out of hand. Misinformation is a dime a dozen on the internet.It matters not what we need to find, but rather what we want to find.

And again, my post is NOT to be construed as condoning incest or rape.