muslim woman refused job at abercrombie and fitch because of head scarf

[freethinker44]

Muslim teen sues Abercrombie & Fitch - Crime & courts- msnbc.com



I have to say, as much as I dislike abercrombie and fitch, I have to agree with them on this one.

It is obvious to anyone that a place like abercrombie and fitch would require a dress code. They are not selling a product they are selling style. Also, they didn't refuse her because she was muslim they refused her because of her scarf was against their dress code.

If people are going to have certain beliefs, then they should realize that not everyone on the planet are going to be able to cater their beliefs. If she were to audition for a rock band would they be wrong for not hiring her if she refused to play anything but traditional muslim music? Probably not, and no one should expect them too. If someone chooses a belief that limits them in someway, whether it be by dress or anything else, they should not expect others to limit themselves in their company.

[Humanistheart]

Originally Posted by freethinker44

Muslim teen sues Abercrombie & Fitch - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

If someone chooses a belief that limits them in someway, whether it be by dress or anything else, they should not expect others to limit themselves in their company.

Agreed.

[idea]

yup.

It would be unwise to hire someone who is LDS to serve drinks at a bar as an example. We don't drink, would mix horrible concoctions, it would be bad for business. Why would someone who is LDS even want to work at a bar? I guess the issue would never come up with anyone who is true/blue.

If someone chooses a belief that limits them in someway, whether it be by dress or anything else, they should not expect others to limit themselves in their company.

I don't think that not drinking is limiting though. I think being an alcoholic is limiting.

In similar manner, Muslims prob believe that their dress is not confining, but rather gives them freedom from being looked up and down by unwanted admirers. I believe in dressing modestly too.

Any Muslim out there is free to correct me.

and yes, we should expect others, in public places, to limit themselves in the company of others.
running down the street naked, cussing in front of children, public intoxication - all of these are better suited for private residences.

Private business/residence - do what you want (so long as the public does not have to pay for the damage/rescue you from stupidity later).
Out in front of everyone? Everyone can be nice/respectful to one another.


Me thinks abercrombie will not be making any money off of Muslims in the coming intern. they were prob not making much off of them to begin with though.

[monta]

I don't drink and I have tended bar.

The headscarf is hardly a nail through the hand, how does it stop you working in a clothes store? Abercrombie are idiots if they don't drive the mesage into their workers that they need to avoid any more of this negative publicity, how many cases is this now?

[Storm]

I dunno... I'd like to review what their dress code actually states.

[idea]

Originally Posted by monta

I don't drink and I have tended bar.

LOL! I guess I made the wrong assumption that drinkers were picky about what they put in their mouth...
I once heard of a drink that was made by taking everything that had spilled onto the floor mats, and filtering it into a cup.... people payed money to drink this!

[Nepenthe]

I find this odd. Then again, I live in L.A. and it's normal to see clothing store employees such as Sikhs wearing turbans, employees with yamulkes and head scarves. Then again, I admit I don't remember whether they were Abercrombie' or not.

[freethinker44]

Originally Posted by idea

and yes, we should expect others, in public places, to limit themselves in the company of others.
running down the street naked, cussing in front of children, public intoxication - all of these are better suited for private residences.

This isn't what I meant. I mean you shouldn't expect everyone in the room to stop drinking because you are against it. And if your beliefs keep you from serving drinks to others, then would a bar be wrong for turning you down as a bar tender? Or if you refused to wear the uniform at hooters, should they be forced to hire you? Certain establishments are built around a particular style or theme, if someone refuses to accept that style or theme then they should go somewhere else.

If you refuse to take your clothes off, would it be right for a topless bar to not hire you as a dancer?

If you refuse to play church music, would it be right for a church to not hire you as an organist?

Absolutely not. And no one should expect them to change because someone else refuses to participate.

I am not talking about anything illegal like running down the streets naked. Even if some people think it should be illegal to serve liquor in a bar or topless bars to operate, it isn't. So until they are illegal people shouldn't try to force them to make an exception if they aren't willing to conform to the standards of the establishment, especially when the establishment is known for a particular standard.

[Apex]

I am thinking the store is in the wrong here.

[idea]

Originally Posted by Nepenthe

I find this odd. Then again, I live in L.A. and it's normal to see clothing store employees such as Sikhs wearing turbans, employees with yamulkes and head scarves. Then again, I admit I don't remember whether they were Abercrombie' or not.

so, when trying on an itsy bitsy teeney weeney Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - do you ever hesitate before asking the lady in the turban if she thinks it fits well?