Should France ban the burqa?

[eselam]

Originally Posted by Falvlun

I'm glad this came up because I was wondering why there was so much scrutiny over female modesty, when men so often get a free ride. I mean, if it is so offensive, or at least, so immodest, to show an arm or ankle or hair or face of a female, why does the same not hold for males?

men have different roles to women.

lets go back in time say 300 years.

was it the women that worked in the fields during the hot summer days or was it the men?

i'm talking in general here about any part of the world?

[kai]

Originally Posted by eselam

men have different roles to women.

lets go back in time say 300 years.

was it the women that worked in the fields during the hot summer days or was it the men?

i'm talking in general here about any part of the world?

i suspect both or they would starve, probably the women if men were considered warrior class and anything else was beneath them ,or off to war or the Tavern, or sat around with their mates talking over politics and religion.

[eselam]

Originally Posted by Shahzad

And quite right. Who the hell wants the planet to be ruled over by Muslims, it would be like a Saudi Arabia that covered all the world. No thanks. Though I have no idea how you got from not wanting Islamic overlords to not wanting any good to come to Muslims and only wanting to destroy them.

Also, if the Quran says that non-Muslims don't want any good to come to Muslims then we can chalk up another error for the Quran.

you said;

Originally Posted by Shahzad

Also, if the Quran says that non-Muslims don't want any good to come to Muslims then we can chalk up another error for the Quran.

and your reply to your own statement was;

Originally Posted by Shahzad

And quite right. Who the hell wants the planet to be ruled over by Muslims, it would be like a Saudi Arabia that covered all the world. No thanks.

you most certainly can chalk it up if you wish friend.

cos i see an error in your statement, it does not make the quran wrong in any way.

[eselam]

Originally Posted by kai

i suspect both or they would starve, probably the women if men were off to war or the Tavern or sat around with their mates talking over politics and religion.

yes thats if you were from england.

but from most other parts of the world, the men did the work and the women did the house work and raised the kids. it's everywhere.

[kai]

Originally Posted by eselam

yes thats if you were from england.

but from most other parts of the world, the men did the work and the women did the house work and raised the kids. it's everywhere.

i see a statement but wheres the proof, and what about in Arabia they dont have fields, are you saying that men do all the work so they can wear less clothes if its hot. and by the way its rarely hot in England so we all wrap up men and women except we don't cover our rosy cheeks.

[eselam]

Originally Posted by kai

i see a statement but wheres the proof, and what about in Arabia they dont have fields, are you saying that men do all the work.

they had animals, the prophet was a shepherd, i just used fields as one example, you don't expect me to go through all of them?

men USED to do all the work, well the outside labour anyway. but now as i understand it, men and women are equal right. men are giving birth, women are growing beards, i name it you guys have it.

[kai]

Originally Posted by eselam

they had animals, the prophet was a shepherd, i just used fields as one example, you don't expect me to go through all of them?

yes please

men USED to do all the work, well the outside labour anyway. but now as i understand it, men and women are equal right. men are giving birth, women are growing beards, i name it you guys have it.

what are you saying? looking after the kids and cleaning the house making sure there are clean clothes is not work?

where do you live with these bearded ladies? i think you are shakatar LoL

[Shahzad]

Originally Posted by eselam

cos i see an error in your statement, it does not make the quran wrong in any way.

Except you didn't point out and explain any error in my statement, it's not my job to find it for you.

[eselam]

Originally Posted by Shahzad

Except you didn't point out and explain any error in my statement, it's not my job to find it for you.

if i was a 2 year old i would have considered this a great come back, but apparently i'm not 2 years old.

[eselam]

Originally Posted by kai

what are you saying? looking after the kids and cleaning the house making sure there are clean clothes is not work?

where do you live with these bearded ladies? i think you are shakatar LoL

i am a shakatar ( i'm soposed to say "a shakaxhi" but i don't know wif you know this one), you know you are one of the most coolest non muslims around kai. i admire that. you make me laugh alot.