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Old 05-21-2009, 08:26 PM
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The recent story of Danny Hauser, a 13 year old boy with cancer, has brought into the spotlight the rights of parents to refuse medical treatment for their children.

I really have two minds about the matter.

On one hand, I see refusing life-saving treatment for your child as equivalent to child abuse at best and man-slaughter at worst. You are knowingly subjecting your child to unnecessary pain and suffering, and possibly death, by refusing known remedies.

On the other hand, it does seem a bit murky to force parents to subject their children to treatments they view as bad, sinful, etc.

Where do we draw the line? Should treatment be mandatory?
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:30 PM
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Where do we draw the line? Should treatment be mandatory?

We draw the line at reality.

Belief in your imaginary friend is just fine up to and until you begin to rely on your imaginary friend to remove the cancer from your child's brain.

That`s when it becomes really ridiculous really fast.
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On the other hand, it does seem a bit murky to force parents to subject their children to treatments they view as bad, sinful, etc.

Where do we draw the line? Should treatment be mandatory?
There's also the fact that the child in question is rational and, himself, refuses conventional treatment.
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There's also the fact that the child in question is rational and, himself, refuses conventional treatment.
He`s 13.
He has no rights.

There`s a reason for this.
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I tend to agree with Linwood here. While I happen to have an "imaginary friend" (), I certainly wouldn't rely on Her to drain the cancer from my dying son's withering body.

I whole heartedly believe it is child abuse to refuse treatments and sit back idly while you watch your child die before your eyes. I call it abuse, neglect, disgusting, ridiculous, unbelievable, stupid, and add to that a some-people-shouldn't-be-allowed-to-have-children.
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The recent story of Danny Hauser, a 13 year old boy with cancer, has brought into the spotlight the rights of parents to refuse medical treatment for their children.

I really have two minds about the matter.

On one hand, I see refusing life-saving treatment for your child as equivalent to child abuse at best and man-slaughter at worst. You are knowingly subjecting your child to unnecessary pain and suffering, and possibly death, by refusing known remedies.

On the other hand, it does seem a bit murky to force parents to subject their children to treatments they view as bad, sinful, etc.

Where do we draw the line? Should treatment be mandatory?
If the ailment is treatable, heck yes, treatment should be mandatory.

I could understand bypassing treatment if an illness is terminal and the treatment significantly alters the quality of life.

Otherwise, I believe parents have the responsibility to ensure their children receive adequate medical care. Parents should be able to make decisions regarding treatment and to refuse one remedy in favor of another feasible remedy is perfectly acceptable, in my opinion.
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I'll be the lone voice of dissent, then. I find the idea of the government forcing medical treatment on the unwilling repugnant.

That said, I honestly don't know about this issue.
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If an adult wants to refuse medical treatment for himself for a disease because the treatment is against his religion, that's one thing, but when a child is involved, and the parent refuses proven medical treatment for the CHILD, I think that is child abuse. We don't allow parents to withhold education from child, should we allow parents to withhold adequate healthcare from the child?
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A child cannot consent, and there have been many other cases where the government has taken custody. A parent who would refuse their children medical care in favor of superstition or pseudoscience is negligent.
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The recent story of Danny Hauser, a 13 year old boy with cancer, has brought into the spotlight the rights of parents to refuse medical treatment for their children.

I really have two minds about the matter.

On one hand, I see refusing life-saving treatment for your child as equivalent to child abuse at best and man-slaughter at worst. You are knowingly subjecting your child to unnecessary pain and suffering, and possibly death, by refusing known remedies.

On the other hand, it does seem a bit murky to force parents to subject their children to treatments they view as bad, sinful, etc.

Where do we draw the line? Should treatment be mandatory?
One question overlooked.

What basis do we have that a 13 year old child has developed a freedom of conscience on the same level an adult has?

Children are solely at the whim of their parents, as in the U.S. greater respect is given to parental rights to raise their child, and the notion that a child has freedom of religion assumes that the child has the life experience and rationality to determine among all their observations of nature and various beliefs their own conscience.

Looking at how children are practically indoctrinated in all cultural aspects by their parents and the society around them I find the notion that a child, even as old as 13, has the experience of an adult somewhat naive.

What's worrisome in this case is that the question is not merely a so called religious freedom issue but that the child in question has basically been led to a delusion. If it wasn't for the harrowing condition of his physical health the claims the parents, child and the tribe offering him help have offered up regarding this child's beliefs would be a serious question for a child psychologist.

In essence, the group they claim to be a part of is a so called native american group (not any sort of recognized tribe) that is solely founded on its natural healing one of whose leaders has prior fraud convictions regarding magic mushrooms and the claim to cure AIDS. A group I do not believe that receives much respect from actual American nations such as the Lakota or any of the others for that matter.

Is it all child abuse? I think the parents love their child and want the best for him. They may be negligent but there is no evidence of intentional abuse of the child.
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