Conflict in the Middle East (moral, suicide, pray, Israel)

[canadianhorsefan]

Does anyone else care that Israelis are murdering countless Palestinians and calling the Palestinians's terrorists?! Does anyone care that the Israelis stole Lebanese land (the Sheba'a Farms) and are still claiming it as a part of Israel??

canadianhorsefan

[canadianhorsefan]

Does anyone else care that Israelis are murdering countless Palestinians and calling the Palestinians's terrorists?! Does anyone care that the Israelis stole Lebanese land (the Sheba'a Farms) and are still claiming it as a part of Israel??

canadianhorsefan

[Engyo]

CanadienHorseFan:

Do I care? Yes. Is there something realistic I can do about it? Not directly, other than to specifically include that region of the world and all its inhabitants in y prayers for peace. I can look around, make my personal judgement regarding which of the candidates and parties in the next election would be most likely to follow a policy that make sense to me, and then vote that way. I can support these ideas, verbally and in writing, but I don't believe that is going to have much effect on those disposed to using violence on eithe side in this conflict. Moral outrage is fine; but my staying morally outraged for the last couple of decades hasn't had any real impact, and I have generally tried to direct this energy into more productive channels.

I also care about all of the Israelis killed by Palestinian rockets, guns, and bombs. I even care about the suicide bombers themselves.

Do you have some concrete suggestions about what individuals can do which would have significant impact on this conflict? I reflect on the fact that this has been going on in this region of the world for a couple thousand years or so now........ This is not intended as pessimistic; however without a significant change in the inhabitants in the region, on BOTH sides, I don't see a resolution to this conflict anytime soon. Both sides, and most of the participants on both sides, and all of their supporters, are too attached to the notion of revenge and retribution to make peace with each other at this time. When enough of them are sick of it and really want peace, peace will happen.

[Engyo]

CanadienHorseFan:

Do I care? Yes. Is there something realistic I can do about it? Not directly, other than to specifically include that region of the world and all its inhabitants in y prayers for peace. I can look around, make my personal judgement regarding which of the candidates and parties in the next election would be most likely to follow a policy that make sense to me, and then vote that way. I can support these ideas, verbally and in writing, but I don't believe that is going to have much effect on those disposed to using violence on eithe side in this conflict. Moral outrage is fine; but my staying morally outraged for the last couple of decades hasn't had any real impact, and I have generally tried to direct this energy into more productive channels.

I also care about all of the Israelis killed by Palestinian rockets, guns, and bombs. I even care about the suicide bombers themselves.

Do you have some concrete suggestions about what individuals can do which would have significant impact on this conflict? I reflect on the fact that this has been going on in this region of the world for a couple thousand years or so now........ This is not intended as pessimistic; however without a significant change in the inhabitants in the region, on BOTH sides, I don't see a resolution to this conflict anytime soon. Both sides, and most of the participants on both sides, and all of their supporters, are too attached to the notion of revenge and retribution to make peace with each other at this time. When enough of them are sick of it and really want peace, peace will happen.

[Mr Spinkles]

I do care, I think Israeli tactics are wrong....and I also care about Israel's right to exist, and the fact that blowing yourself up on a bus full of innocent civilians is wrong and derails the entire peace process...

[Mr Spinkles]

I do care, I think Israeli tactics are wrong....and I also care about Israel's right to exist, and the fact that blowing yourself up on a bus full of innocent civilians is wrong and derails the entire peace process...

[LilChrist]

There's a good reason for Isreal calling Palestinians terrorists. Most of them are. If you look at the Palestinian culture, the children are brought up to hate and murder Jews. I recently listened to some Palestinians bragging arrogantly about how they can walk into a Isreali market FULL OF CIVILIANS, and become human bombs. Isreal is and has a right to be tired of it. If Isreal went for peaceful tactics, Palestine would grab the opportunity and hop in terrorism with even more force. Think about 9/11. Thry have that happen to them every year, just with smaller buildings and less people at a time. All in all, Palestine has killed more Isrealis than the 9/11 did. Before you call the Isrealis terrorists, think about this: Isreal has been retaliating. Now they're tired of it.

[LilChrist]

There's a good reason for Isreal calling Palestinians terrorists. Most of them are. If you look at the Palestinian culture, the children are brought up to hate and murder Jews. I recently listened to some Palestinians bragging arrogantly about how they can walk into a Isreali market FULL OF CIVILIANS, and become human bombs. Isreal is and has a right to be tired of it. If Isreal went for peaceful tactics, Palestine would grab the opportunity and hop in terrorism with even more force. Think about 9/11. Thry have that happen to them every year, just with smaller buildings and less people at a time. All in all, Palestine has killed more Isrealis than the 9/11 did. Before you call the Isrealis terrorists, think about this: Isreal has been retaliating. Now they're tired of it.

[canadianhorsefan]

Okay, maybe that's a good reason. Just tell me: Is it a good reason for Israel to stay in Lebanese territory? Nope, don't think so. Well, they are. Plus, they left us a few......memories. Like mines all over the place. And bomb holes in the buildings. Oh, and not to forget, an Israeli sniper killed my father's cousin's brother. Oh yeah, he was 16 years old. Oh no, it's okay to kill innocent civilians. Yes, sure is. You know what? There was a small video they used to play throughout the Middle East on TV. Yeah, a guy and his son, hiding behing a dumpster, away from the Israelis. Then BOOM!, the screen fills with smoke, and went it clears you see a dead boy and his father seriously injured. mg:

Well, I think the Israelis are allowed to do this. Yeah. And they did take more land than was alloted to them when Israel was created. And they just want Lebanese water. Yes. Steal our rivers. Sure. We'll just hand them over to you.

Sorry if I'm sarcastic, I don't know why. And it's the same at another forum. I guess I have a lot on my mind. Concerning what to do with students using cocaine and pot and I don't know what.


canadianhorsefan

[canadianhorsefan]

Okay, maybe that's a good reason. Just tell me: Is it a good reason for Israel to stay in Lebanese territory? Nope, don't think so. Well, they are. Plus, they left us a few......memories. Like mines all over the place. And bomb holes in the buildings. Oh, and not to forget, an Israeli sniper killed my father's cousin's brother. Oh yeah, he was 16 years old. Oh no, it's okay to kill innocent civilians. Yes, sure is. You know what? There was a small video they used to play throughout the Middle East on TV. Yeah, a guy and his son, hiding behing a dumpster, away from the Israelis. Then BOOM!, the screen fills with smoke, and went it clears you see a dead boy and his father seriously injured. mg:

Well, I think the Israelis are allowed to do this. Yeah. And they did take more land than was alloted to them when Israel was created. And they just want Lebanese water. Yes. Steal our rivers. Sure. We'll just hand them over to you.

Sorry if I'm sarcastic, I don't know why. And it's the same at another forum. I guess I have a lot on my mind. Concerning what to do with students using cocaine and pot and I don't know what.


canadianhorsefan