Conflict in the Middle East (moral, suicide, pray, Israel)

[Mr Spinkles]

Canadianhorsefan--

Killing innocent civilians is always wrong, no matter who is behind it--Israelis, Palestinians--anyone.

However, there are reasons Israel doesn't want to pull out of Lebanon--remember the three seperate occasions when the Arab states launched a surprise attack on Israel? Israel doesn't want to give up this land because it helps to act as a buffer in case of any future surprise attacks. Israel has given back land that it won in battle before...only to find itself attacked again.

Israel would have motivation to pull out if the Arab states would acknowledge its existence once and for all and guarantee that they won't attack Israel again.

[Mr Spinkles]

Canadianhorsefan--

Killing innocent civilians is always wrong, no matter who is behind it--Israelis, Palestinians--anyone.

However, there are reasons Israel doesn't want to pull out of Lebanon--remember the three seperate occasions when the Arab states launched a surprise attack on Israel? Israel doesn't want to give up this land because it helps to act as a buffer in case of any future surprise attacks. Israel has given back land that it won in battle before...only to find itself attacked again.

Israel would have motivation to pull out if the Arab states would acknowledge its existence once and for all and guarantee that they won't attack Israel again.

[painted wolf]

As far as I'm concerned all sides in this conflict are wrong... innocent people are killed because of the vile actions of the politicians... wether by tank/helicopter or by convincing kids to put on bombs...

violence begets violence...

wa:-do

[painted wolf]

As far as I'm concerned all sides in this conflict are wrong... innocent people are killed because of the vile actions of the politicians... wether by tank/helicopter or by convincing kids to put on bombs...

violence begets violence...

wa:-do

[canadianhorsefan]

Well, maybe they'd acknowledge its existence if Israel gave back Palestinian land and stopped being such a pain in the.....you know what. ;-)

Kids to put on bombs? The kids decide whether to fight for freedom or not. Islam is suppressed in that region, so they have a right to retaliate.

canadianhorsefan

[canadianhorsefan]

Well, maybe they'd acknowledge its existence if Israel gave back Palestinian land and stopped being such a pain in the.....you know what. ;-)

Kids to put on bombs? The kids decide whether to fight for freedom or not. Islam is suppressed in that region, so they have a right to retaliate.

canadianhorsefan

[Mr Spinkles]

And what guarantee does Israel have that once it gives back Palestinian/Lebanese land it will not be attacked once again, like it has been so many times before?

Both parties show a lack of a willingness to find a peaceful solution...and therefore a violent cycle is what they will have until they are willing to make concessions to each other.

No one has the right to retaliate against innocent women and children, I think it's wrong and I beleive (from my understanding) it is against Islam to kill innocent women and children as well.

[Mr Spinkles]

And what guarantee does Israel have that once it gives back Palestinian/Lebanese land it will not be attacked once again, like it has been so many times before?

Both parties show a lack of a willingness to find a peaceful solution...and therefore a violent cycle is what they will have until they are willing to make concessions to each other.

No one has the right to retaliate against innocent women and children, I think it's wrong and I beleive (from my understanding) it is against Islam to kill innocent women and children as well.

[anders]

In 1947, India was returned to its people. Large parts of Palestine were stolen by the UN, headed by the US and Britain, under war cries like "A land without people to a people without a land", and fenced to a new nation. That was the basic error. Reversing that decision would be almost as hard as returning, for example, the Americas or Australia to their original inhabitants, but if Israel at least withdrew from occupied territories to the borders decided in 1947, I hope that many problems would be reduced. According to all international conventions, the Israeli government are war criminals in the way they exploit occupied territory. Fortunately, there seems to be an increasing amount of protest among Israelis, even from enlisted persons. Those of you who believe in prayers should use them for the benefit of all the people in the area, and we others will hope for a peaceful future.

[student_of_god]

maybe you should read history and you will understand that the root of all evil which started the conflicts you mention, plus the ones between India and Pakitstarn (sorry for spelling) where the result of the British either during the world war and in their ways of collonising countries. Why not draw a line, break the country into 2 smaller coutries and those who are muslim on one side, those are other on the other..... Short term fix, long term conflict.

Islam is nothing to defend. I am or was muslim and even I am disgusted in the way they act in most parts of the world. When you read "Student_of_god" forum, you can understand why Islam is hated by many. Even though many of my fellow muslims would disagree, this article is based on facts which can be found in our holy book.

Islam only makes itself known by belittling everyone elses religions. It is not just a religion, it is a law, it is the culture. It is a religion to which I feel ashamed of being apart of, but I was born into it and all my life until I was able to get away was brainwashed by it from family, schools, etc..... I am a lucky one, but many of my friends are boarder line fundermentalists which latter take their religion too seriously and get mislead by our religious leaders based on their perception of the holy book and their translation pased onto us (which has personal feelings etc inbuilt).