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Old 05-13-2004, 04:47 PM
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Sorry, a little off topic, but Runt when I read your post I thought you said they SHOULD NOT, and from your other posts I wondered why you would have came to this conclusion, so that is really the only reason why I asked, good reply, BTW, nicely said. It is really scaring me though, I have caught myself several times reading a post the opposite it was written, what is up with that??

Oh, and just out of curiosity, is it in fact against a law for gays to adopt, because I thought Rosie O' Donnell did, so in that case this would just be a personal or religious view debate, correct??
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Sorry, a little off topic, but Runt when I read your post I thought you said they SHOULD NOT, and from your other posts I wondered why you would have came to this conclusion, so that is really the only reason why I asked, good reply, BTW, nicely said. It is really scaring me though, I have caught myself several times reading a post the opposite it was written, what is up with that??

Oh, and just out of curiosity, is it in fact against a law for gays to adopt, because I thought Rosie O' Donnell did, so in that case this would just be a personal or religious view debate, correct??
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Old 05-13-2004, 05:10 PM
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Speaking of a "moral" atmosphere. I wonder how many heterosexual couples are raising children and are not married.
A good question. I haven't the slightest clue, or the slightest clue how to find out. In anyone does get that stat, though, I would like to know what you find!

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It is really scaring me though, I have caught myself several times reading a post the opposite it was written, what is up with that??
LMAO, I've had a problem misreading as well. We're reading the novel Jazz at school and I misread the line "That Violet should not have let the parrot go" as "That Violet DID NOT let the parrot go" (which I interpreted to mean she KILLED it)... changed the context of the next three paragraphs in a really funny way. But this is off topic, so...

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Oh, and just out of curiosity, is it in fact against a law for gays to adopt, because I thought Rosie O' Donnell did, so in that case this would just be a personal or religious view debate, correct??
I think it's legal in some states and illegal in others. And then the adoption agencies go through their own screening process and probably have certain qualifications that those wanting to adopt must meet... and some probably discriminate against homosexuals as well as people of different religions, people of different ethnic groups, and people of different socioeconomic statis.

But yeah, I think this is a personal/religious question rather than a strictly legal one.
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Speaking of a "moral" atmosphere. I wonder how many heterosexual couples are raising children and are not married.
A good question. I haven't the slightest clue, or the slightest clue how to find out. In anyone does get that stat, though, I would like to know what you find!

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It is really scaring me though, I have caught myself several times reading a post the opposite it was written, what is up with that??
LMAO, I've had a problem misreading as well. We're reading the novel Jazz at school and I misread the line "That Violet should not have let the parrot go" as "That Violet DID NOT let the parrot go" (which I interpreted to mean she KILLED it)... changed the context of the next three paragraphs in a really funny way. But this is off topic, so...

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Oh, and just out of curiosity, is it in fact against a law for gays to adopt, because I thought Rosie O' Donnell did, so in that case this would just be a personal or religious view debate, correct??
I think it's legal in some states and illegal in others. And then the adoption agencies go through their own screening process and probably have certain qualifications that those wanting to adopt must meet... and some probably discriminate against homosexuals as well as people of different religions, people of different ethnic groups, and people of different socioeconomic statis.

But yeah, I think this is a personal/religious question rather than a strictly legal one.
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Speaking of a "moral" atmosphere. I wonder how many heterosexual couples are raising children and are not married.
A good question. I haven't the slightest clue, or the slightest clue how to find out. In anyone does get that stat, though, I would like to know what you find!
Here are some statistics:

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/project..._01census.html
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Speaking of a "moral" atmosphere. I wonder how many heterosexual couples are raising children and are not married.
A good question. I haven't the slightest clue, or the slightest clue how to find out. In anyone does get that stat, though, I would like to know what you find!
Here are some statistics:

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/project..._01census.html
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Old 05-13-2004, 06:10 PM
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But it doesn't tell how many heterosexual unmarried couples are raising kids... it says how many MARRIED couples are raising kids (24% of all households) but does not say which percentage of households have NO kids (so I can figure out how many of those households have kids but the "parents" are unmarried).
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But it doesn't tell how many heterosexual unmarried couples are raising kids... it says how many MARRIED couples are raising kids (24% of all households) but does not say which percentage of households have NO kids (so I can figure out how many of those households have kids but the "parents" are unmarried).
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There is no such thing as a gay Christian. It's an oxymoron and it goes against the Bible. I know of people who were gay and became Christians but I know there is no such thing as a gay Christian. Yes...you may have heard of gay ministers but you can't believe in Jesus Christ and be a homosexual or believe homosexuality is ok.
Who in the name of jesus mary and joseph do you think you are to say what people can and cannot beleive. anyone who loves jesus and believes in him is a christian, regardless of their sexual orientation. where do you get off deciding who deserves jesus' love? please give me an answer cause im dying to know. this holier than thou, self righteous bull isn't doing anyone any good. Here's a little bible passage for you : "He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their own righteousness and despised anyone else. (am i the only one seeing a connection here???) 'Two people wnet up to the temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, 'O God, I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity -- greedy, dishonest, adulterous -- or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and I pay tithes on my whole income.' But the tax collector stood off at a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast and prayed, 'O God, be merciful to me a sinner.' I tell you, the latter went home jusitfied not the former; for everone who exalts himself will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted." Luke 18: 9-14

you tend to use quotes from the bible out of context... that there is pretty straightforward love. Just love everyone. Don't alienate people. Who did Jesus ever alienate??
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There is no such thing as a gay Christian. It's an oxymoron and it goes against the Bible. I know of people who were gay and became Christians but I know there is no such thing as a gay Christian. Yes...you may have heard of gay ministers but you can't believe in Jesus Christ and be a homosexual or believe homosexuality is ok.
Who in the name of jesus mary and joseph do you think you are to say what people can and cannot beleive. anyone who loves jesus and believes in him is a christian, regardless of their sexual orientation. where do you get off deciding who deserves jesus' love? please give me an answer cause im dying to know. this holier than thou, self righteous bull isn't doing anyone any good. Here's a little bible passage for you : "He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their own righteousness and despised anyone else. (am i the only one seeing a connection here???) 'Two people wnet up to the temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, 'O God, I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity -- greedy, dishonest, adulterous -- or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and I pay tithes on my whole income.' But the tax collector stood off at a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast and prayed, 'O God, be merciful to me a sinner.' I tell you, the latter went home jusitfied not the former; for everone who exalts himself will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted." Luke 18: 9-14

you tend to use quotes from the bible out of context... that there is pretty straightforward love. Just love everyone. Don't alienate people. Who did Jesus ever alienate??
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