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View Poll Results: What is the moment of conception?
When the sperm has penetrated the egg. 16 59.26%
When haploid pronuclei have been formed. 1 3.70%
When the membranes of the pronuclei have dissolved. 0 0%
When mitosis has occurred. 1 3.70%
When the blastocyst has formed. 0 0%
When the blastocyst has implanted in the endometrium. 0 0%
When gastrulation has occurred. 0 0%
There is no clearly defined moment of conception. 9 33.33%
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Not every egg that is fertilized is a guarantee that it will be carried to full term and live -- abortion should always be a choice of our girls but should never be used as a form of birth control -- you know what I think of all these pro-life people is how many babies have you adopted?

There are so many unwanted and unadopted children in America and abortion is such a small percent of loss of life that its silly to think about it. We should concentrate on the Moms who have 8 kids and cant feed them -- the kids in the system that their crackhead Mom left in the hospital -- the kids that made it here and will end up in a bad life if they are not cared for

I agree people need morals and values taught to them -- but who will teach that to the millions of cast off children that live in the system right now so they dont perpetuate the cycle of poverty?

Who cares where life begins -- lets take care of the little lost souls we have right now that do not have a chance for success because their Mom chose NOT to abort them but instead neglect them or worse

yes, but why is this the childs fault? the mom's in poverty, the moms on crack, the mom is a whore who can't keep her legs shut.

all of those are NO EXCUSE to kill a child.
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yes, but why is this the childs fault? the mom's in poverty, the moms on crack, the mom is a whore who can't keep her legs shut.

all of those are NO EXCUSE to kill a child.
Just as your indignation does not automatically turn that which might become a life into an actual human being.

BTW - in an earlier message, you spoke of the teachings of Christ. What did He say about motes and beams? How do you think that applies to calling women whores?
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BTW - in an earlier message, you spoke of the teachings of Christ. What did He say about motes and beams? How do you think that applies to calling women whores?
Notice it's always the women who bear the blame in these fantasies, too . . . virgin birth must be a lot more common than I thought.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:16 PM
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Just as your indignation does not automatically turn that which might become a life into an actual human being.

BTW - in an earlier message, you spoke of the teachings of Christ. What did He say about motes and beams? How do you think that applies to calling women whores?
whore noun, verb, whored, whor·ing.
–noun 1.a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.



is this name calling? since you like me to be more christ like.

i will say " harlot". better?

or is there no such thing as a whore?
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Notice it's always the women who bear the blame in these fantasies, too . . . virgin birth must be a lot more common than I thought.
nope,

there are whores and whoremongers. it takes two to tango!
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is this name calling? since you like me to be more christ like.
Hey... if you're without sin, feel free to cast away.

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or is there no such thing as a whore?
Sure there is: a whore is a prostitute (though, IMO, carries negative connotations with it that the term "prostitute" does not on its own). Calling women who procure abortions "whores who can't keep their legs shut" doesn't do a lot to further reasonable discourse.

Rather than throwing around inflammatory statements and insults, maybe you should take some of this guy's advice:

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I think instead of screaming at each other ( pro choice, and pro life).

we need to come togeather and see how we can decrease the aboriton number (of the lazy ones) through education. ( and IMO through the teachings of Christ).
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Hey... if you're without sin, feel free to cast away.


Sure there is: a whore is a prostitute (though, IMO, carries negative connotations with it that the term "prostitute" does not on its own). Calling women who procure abortions "whores who can't keep their legs shut" doesn't do a lot to further reasonable discourse.

Rather than throwing around inflammatory statements and insults, maybe you should take some of this guy's advice:
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who did i call a whore penguin? who ? who? who?


you are acting like i picked a person out and called someone a whore.

show me? ( i will be waiting for that one).


I said that there are whores out there. thats all.

not name calling. its not a racial slur or something!

if you don't like me , fine. if you want to pick a fight, fine. but you are REALLY streaching here.
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who did i call a whore penguin? who ? who? who?


you are acting like i picked a person out and called someone a whore.

show me? ( i will be waiting for that one).
You called women who get abortions whores. And you did it right here:

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yes, but why is this the childs fault? the mom's in poverty, the moms on crack, the mom is a whore who can't keep her legs shut.

all of those are NO EXCUSE to kill a child.
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You called women who get abortions whores. And you did it right here:

Nope,

i called Whores who can't keep their legs shut and go get aboritons , whores.

not "ALL WOMEN WHO GET ABORTION ARE WHORES." ( nice try)


and yes, there are some women that are whores and some men that are whoremongers. NO?


round and round we go..........

nice streach thou.. anything else?
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