Premarital Sex? (virtual, America, sexuality, devil)

[Sunstone]

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans engage in premarital sex. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people engage in premarital sex, would it not be wise to structure teen sexuality education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most teens will engage in premarital sex, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing the responsible use of condoms, etc.?

[eudaimonia]

Devil's Advocate time:

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans drive over the speed limit. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people drive over the speed limit, would it not be wise to structure driver's education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most Americans will engage in unsafe driving, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing the responsible use of tricking cops out of giving them speeding tickets, etc.?


eudaimonia,

Mark

[jacquie4000]

Honestly I don't know if they discussed the use of condoms in my son's sexual education classes, how awful of me. I guess I was not very concerned about it because my son and I had a detailed talk where I left nothing out.
I think we covered all the bases so to speak.

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by eudaimonia

Devil's Advocate time:

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans drive over the speed limit. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people drive over the speed limit, would it not be wise to structure driver's education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most Americans will engage in unsafe driving, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing the responsible use of tricking cops out of giving them speeding tickets, etc.?


eudaimonia,

Mark

Mark, you analogy breaks down when you say, "tricking cops out of giving them speeding tickets". At that point, you are no longer making an analogous statement. Could you rephrase that so it's a true analogy?

[Terrywoodenpic]

It is strange that in the USA you love and partake in sex so much..
Yet fear and suppress any talk or education about it.

Seem a misfit to me.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by eudaimonia

Devil's Advocate time:

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans drive over the speed limit. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people drive over the speed limit, would it not be wise to structure driver's education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most Americans will engage in unsafe driving, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing the responsible use of tricking cops out of giving them speeding tickets, etc.?

In actuality, most driver training covers (and if it doesn't, it should) emergency maneuvers such as avoidance of other vehicles being driven erratically, and safety features like seat belts, air bags, collapsible steering columns, highway guard rails and the safety factors used when designing roads* are all based around the idea that people will speed and do other "bad" things on occasion. If everyone obeyed all rules of the road, none of that would be necessary.




*you can (and highway engineers do) figure out the safe speed for a particular stretch of road given the turn radius, vertical crest/sag sharpness, banking angle, road surface type, and characteristics of the shoulders and runoff areas; this is the design speed. For virtually all highways, the design speed is significantly lower than the speed limit... if it weren't, people would regularly go off the road when they exceed the speed limit by only a few miles per hour.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

Mark, you analogy breaks down when you say, "tricking cops out of giving them speeding tickets". At that point, you are no longer making an analogous statement. Could you rephrase that so it's a true analogy?

I can:

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans drive over the speed limit. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people drive over the speed limit, would it not be wise to structure driver's education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most Americans will engage in unsafe driving, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing seat belt use, car control and defensive driving skills?

Now it works.

[eudaimonia]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

I can:

Polls consistently show that about 90% of Americans drive over the speed limit. The figures might actually be higher for some European countries. Given that so many people drive over the speed limit, would it not be wise to structure driver's education around the premise that at some point in their lives, most Americans will engage in unsafe driving, and prepare them for that eventuality by emphasizing seat belt use, car control and defensive driving skills?

Now it works.

You make the Devil's Advocate very sad.

Okay, I have to let someone else defend that view. I can't muster up enough sincerity.


eudaimonia,

Mark

[Pardus]

You can either drive people away from the "love" you claim you are spreading by being exclusive, or you can be inclusive.

I was at a Salvation Army church service recently, and even they realized that, talking about it's more important to have people belonging than it is to have people believing something