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Old 07-26-2007, 12:11 AM
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HOUSTON - Texas had the nation's highest birth rate among teenagers ages 15 to 19 in 2004, according to a newly released study of children's health. The Kids Count study, which is updated annually by the Annie E. Casey Foundation in Baltimore, said the Texas rate of 63 births per 1,000 teens remained the same from 2003 to 2004.

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"Observers were divided on whether Texas' emphasis on abstinence in sex education contributes to the state's relatively high numbers. A 1995 law requires school districts to emphasize abstinence in sex education classes.
"It's a touchy subject," said Robert Sanborn, president of Children at Risk. "We can preach abstinence quite a bit, and there is nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't affect some kids, and apparently it's really not working in Texas."

"Don McLeroy, president of the State Board of Education, noted that sex education is mainly a local issue, with state law requiring each district to have a local committee that decides what will be taught."


I don't understand how anyone can deny that an abstinence emphasized sex ed program promotes pregnancy. The United States has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the industrialized world.


When are parents going to stop kidding themselves?
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When are parents going to stop kidding themselves?

its not the schools job.

its the parents!

p.s. i am from the houston area. LOL

i have a 15 year old son. i don't send him to school and "hope" they teach him " safe sex".

thats my Job.
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And by your version of "safe sex" you mean "abstinence-only safe sex", right, rocka?

When will adults realize that doesn't work?
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its not the schools job.

its the parents!

p.s. i am from the houston area. LOL

i have a 15 year old son. i don't send him to school and "hope" they teach him " safe sex".

thats my Job.
This approach would be fine in a perfect world but it's not practical. Many parents don't have enough knowledge about sex ed in order to teach their kids about it. Some parents would be far too conservative in their approach i.e. "Sex is bad and should be avoided at all costs." Other parents would be too liberal i.e. "Go ahead and have sex, everyone else is doing it and it's fun."

IMO Sexual Education, like math, science and English, needs to be taught by those who are thoroughly trained and educated on the subject matter.
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And by your version of "safe sex" you mean "abstinence-only safe sex", right, rocka?

When will adults realize that doesn't work?
isn't abstinence the safest sex?


so you think all the kids in texas are getting pregnant because what these " christian" abstinence parents teaching there kids is not working? LOL!

and i will teach my children that you " SHOULD NOT" have sex until you are married. ( sorry to bust your liberal bubble!)
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its not the schools job.
Isn't the purpose of school to educate?

What's wrong with telling a child the failure rates of contraceptives as opposed to abstinence? The parent still attains the right to tell his or her kid what path they expect from them.

I'll tell you what the school's job isn't: to keep children ignorant. For some reason parents think of ignorance as some usefool tool for their children, from science class [evolution] to sex ed [condoms] and health [eating right] and history [role of religion].
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This approach would be fine in a perfect world but it's not practical. Many parents don't have enough knowledge about sex ed in order to teach their kids about it. Some parents would be far too conservative in their approach i.e. "Sex is bad and should be avoided at all costs." Other parents would be too liberal i.e. "Go ahead and have sex, everyone else is doing it and it's fun."

IMO Sexual Education, like math, science and English, needs to be taught by those who are thoroughly trained and educated on the subject matter.

i agree, but i also think its a moral issue also. The " moral" part should be taught at home by the parents.

but i do think the schools should teach also.
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Isn't the purpose of school to educate?

What's wrong with telling a child the failure rates of contraceptives as opposed to abstinence? The parent still attains the right to tell his or her kid what path they expect from them.

I'll tell you what the school's job isn't: to keep children ignorant. For some reason parents think of ignorance as some usefool tool for their children, from science class [evolution] to sex ed [condoms] and health [eating right] and history [role of religion].

i agree, but if your teen gets pregnant , you should not say " if only that school would have told my baby to use protection!"

the school could help, but the buck stops with the parent.
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isn't abstinence the safest sex?


so you think all the kids in texas are getting pregnant because what these " christian" abstinence parents teaching there kids is not working? LOL!

and i will teach my children that you " SHOULD NOT" have sex until you are married. ( sorry to bust your liberal bubble!)
Yep. Texas is extremely (almost 100%?) in favor of abstinence-only, and yet they have an extremely high birth rate. It ain't those god damned liberals problem. Abstinence-only is purely a religious movement and is not in favor of any other viewpoint (especially not the scie