Why !Fluffy! is sick of religion and politics (Jesus, rituals)

[!Fluffy!]

i've been going through something lately some of you might relate to.

i am sick of politics and religion. Now, i've never been one to lack an opinion on any subject. but it seems like there is a divisiveness reaching fever pitch on these and other forums - and of course this is reflected IRL (in real life) - and it's just so repetitive and obnoxious to me.

it's all just wrong on so many levels.

i believe there is a false dichotomy being promoted / nourished / manufactured in western politics. the question is, who profits from divisiveness? and why do we keep buying into it?

what if the truth is, most of us pretty much agree on important basics like the importance of individual liberty. we don't want the government breathing down our necks like big brother. we actually want to be left alone most of the time, government-wise. stuff like that. truthfully i think most of us are independent, self-sufficient, and just fine thank you. and most of us want those who aren't able to care for themselves, to be cared for - but not for them to be used as "causes" to bludgeon us over the head and make us feel guilty for drawing breath.

and then i see people manufacturing causes all the time. crusades. beating the drum, trying to convince us all the world is going to come to an end if we don't DO something or STOP something or BELIEVE something, right now.

the result? you get another bunch of people waving the opposite banners proclaiming the opposite message. so what do you do? Pick a side! Get on a bandwagon! Beat a drum! Stop the opposition! My team wins, yay!

and when it comes right down to it, our government doesn't care. the politicians are corrupt to the core, from tiny local townships up to the presidency, we are infested with self-serving, rhetoric spewing liars who will succeed eventually in bringing all of us under their yoke while raping the economy. if we let them. Where is true leadership? It is rarely seen in this country, our government is filled with "men without chests".

well i am actually so sick of it all i hate to get started on RELIGION. I actually don't believe in religion at all any more.

Jesus is another story, but i am not going to use him like some people do to put someone on one side of a fence or another.

But it just seems to me like men have done what they have always done with religion, like the Pharisees Jesus preached against all the time. they build monolithic iron-gated edifices, empires, power structures in the name of God. Then they decide who is IN, and who is OUT. They trade the free gift of Grace offered to all humanity, for their own manmade ordinances and rituals, do's and don'ts, blocking the way to heaven and grieving the masses with their legalistic bull to keep them in check. Whited sepulchres. Spiritually dead.

sigh. i need a good sermon i guess.

or some Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia...

Affectionately yours,
!Fluffy!

[Random]

Try anarchy!

[cardero]

Originally Posted by !Fluffy!

and then i see people manufacturing causes all the time. crusades. beating the drum, trying to convince us all the world is going to come to an end if we don't DO something or STOP something or BELIEVE something, right now.

the result? you get another bunch of people waving the opposite banners proclaiming the opposite message. so what do you do? Pick a side! Get on a bandwagon! Beat a drum! Stop the opposition! My team wins, yay!

"A mob doesn't think."
-Alfredo from the film Nuovo cinema Paradiso

Hi Fluffy!!-
-Pat Cardero from the "Why Fluffy is sick of religion and politics" thread

[Dream Angel]

I'm sick of politics myself, mainly because I don't understand it! lol!

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Dream Angel

I'm sick of politics myself, mainly because I don't understand it! lol!

I"m sick of US politics, because I understand it too well (argh!) but mostly because I see no reason why I have to endure 2 YEARS of nonsense "news stories" about presidential wannabes and their hairdos or whatever.

*runs to hide in closet until after Nov. 2008...*

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Originally Posted by !Fluffy!

i've been going through something lately some of you might relate to.

i am sick of politics and religion. Now, i've never been one to lack an opinion on any subject. but it seems like there is a divisiveness reaching fever pitch on these and other forums - and of course this is reflected IRL (in real life) - and it's just so repetitive and obnoxious to me.

it's all just wrong on so many levels.

i believe there is a false dichotomy being promoted / nourished / manufactured in western politics. the question is, who profits from divisiveness? and why do we keep buying into it?

what if the truth is, most of us pretty much agree on important basics like the importance of individual liberty. we don't want the government breathing down our necks like big brother. we actually want to be left alone most of the time, government-wise. stuff like that. truthfully i think most of us are independent, self-sufficient, and just fine thank you. and most of us want those who aren't able to care for themselves, to be cared for - but not for them to be used as "causes" to bludgeon us over the head and make us feel guilty for drawing breath.

and then i see people manufacturing causes all the time. crusades. beating the drum, trying to convince us all the world is going to come to an end if we don't DO something or STOP something or BELIEVE something, right now.

the result? you get another bunch of people waving the opposite banners proclaiming the opposite message. so what do you do? Pick a side! Get on a bandwagon! Beat a drum! Stop the opposition! My team wins, yay!

and when it comes right down to it, our government doesn't care. the politicians are corrupt to the core, from tiny local townships up to the presidency, we are infested with self-serving, rhetoric spewing liars who will succeed eventually in bringing all of us under their yoke while raping the economy. if we let them. Where is true leadership? It is rarely seen in this country, our government is filled with "men without chests".

well i am actually so sick of it all i hate to get started on RELIGION. I actually don't believe in religion at all any more.

Jesus is another story, but i am not going to use him like some people do to put someone on one side of a fence or another.

But it just seems to me like men have done what they have always done with religion, like the Pharisees Jesus preached against all the time. they build monolithic iron-gated edifices, empires, power structures in the name of God. Then they decide who is IN, and who is OUT. They trade the free gift of Grace offered to all humanity, for their own manmade ordinances and rituals, do's and don'ts, blocking the way to heaven and grieving the masses with their legalistic bull to keep them in check. Whited sepulchres. Spiritually dead.

sigh. i need a good sermon i guess.

or some Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia...

Affectionately yours,
!Fluffy!

Until people are willing to change not just what they do but who they are, these rhetorical questions will forever be asked.

[!Fluffy!]

Originally Posted by Random

Try anarchy!

Okay if you want me to.



But my idea of anarchy is hiding with my loved ones on a deserted island where no one can tell us what to do (we are perfectly capable of doing that to each other, thank you).


I am trying to convince everyone in the family to sell their property, pool our money and find an island somewhere.

As yet no one has taken this seriously. I can't imagine why.

[!Fluffy!]

Originally Posted by Booko

I"m sick of US politics, because I understand it too well (argh!) but mostly because I see no reason why I have to endure 2 YEARS of nonsense "news stories" about presidential wannabes and their hairdos or whatever.

*runs to hide in closet until after Nov. 2008...*

frankly they are all a bunch of blowhards and i won't listen to it. i won't, i say!!!

[standing_alone]

LOL, I've been sick of politics for quite some time (can't even stand to follow it closely at all anymore and I used to follow politics obsessively) and one of my majors is poli sci. That major's doomed.

What you say about United States citizens all agreeing about basic fundamentals like individual liberty is very true. You could poll all Americans about what they believe America should stand for and I bet you'd find nearly identical answers from people of most political persuasions. Of course, we differ on how those fundamentals should be approached, but we all pretty much value the same sorts of things. Unfortunately, our political system no longer is a body of representatives of the people who carry out the will of the people in accordance to the Constitution; our political system has become an exclusive club for those with enough wealth to successfully run a campaign, who then divide us against eachother to claim our votes and remain in that club. There are exceptions to this rule, some politicians speaking for the people, but that's just it, they are the exceptions (when they should be the damn rule in the first place!). It's no doubt why voter turnout is so low here. However, in order to get those institutions properly running again, we are going to have to use such avenues (as voting) to bring about any change. The problem is reading politicians and figuring out which ones are slime and which ones are genuinely concerned for the people.

I also understand what you say about religion, or more accurately, organized religion. Organized religion, from my experience and from what I've witnessed with others, is the antithesis to spirituality. The organized religious institutions I've witnessed cared more about their agendas or making sure the members are leaving "enough" in the collection plate. You don't need those structures or (corrupt) instututions or to shell out cash to connect with your spirituality or God or whatever term you use for such feelings and experience. Often, organized religions operate much like our corrupt government for similar reasons (those in the authoritative positions want power and money). It's no wonder why you're disappointed in both.