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Old 05-15-2004, 03:34 PM
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But what if a ghost is kind of a "spiritual signature" rather than a lingering soul? Kind of like... you walk in wet sand and leave footprints, then go swimming and drown. Your physical body dies. Your soul flees and goes where it belongs. But those footprints are still there... they are still a reflection of your life, of you as a living being, of your ACTIONS as a living being... perhaps ghosts are something similar.
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How the heck can you relate ghosts to that? No offense, but I'm genuinely puzzled...
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According to the Bible, "And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement:" Hebrews 9:27 KJV. So, according to the Bible, once you die, you go straight to judgement. No lingering as a ghost. Only demons can charade as ghosts, even sounding and looking exactly like a loved one or stranger that lived in a place previously or a non-existent person. No ghosts.

Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
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According to the Bible, "And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement:" Hebrews 9:27 KJV. So, according to the Bible, once you die, you go straight to judgement. No lingering as a ghost. Only demons can charade as ghosts, even sounding and looking exactly like a loved one or stranger that lived in a place previously or a non-existent person. No ghosts.

Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
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How the heck can you relate ghosts to that? No offense, but I'm genuinely puzzled...
Creativity, my friend. Creativity. Nobody really knows what ghosts are, so why not?
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Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
And here's my answer for you. Do you think God would omit something in the Bible that would leave people open to the spirit of fear? If so, then I suppose you are right, although God would be contradicting Himself if true. But that's impossible, because God is the same yesterday, today and forever. You can not believe the Bible is true and ghosts(the spirits of the deceased) exist. At least, not completely. If you believe the Bible, the only answer is that ghosts are demons pretending to be deceased or non-existent people.
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Here's my questoin for ya..... how do you know that the 'ghost' stage comes before judgment? What if God judged you and said you gotta be a ghost for a while? No one actually knows what God's final judgment entails. So you are being a bit presumtuous in this. Just because it isn't laid out in black and white doesn't mean that the judgment is how it is commonly interpreted to be. Don't be so dismissive of things because they arent directly stated in the Bible
And here's my answer for you. Do you think God would omit something in the Bible that would leave people open to the spirit of fear? If so, then I suppose you are right, although God would be contradicting Himself if true. But that's impossible, because God is the same yesterday, today and forever. You can not believe the Bible is true and ghosts(the spirits of the deceased) exist. At least, not completely. If you believe the Bible, the only answer is that ghosts are demons pretending to be deceased or non-existent people.
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But what if a ghost is kind of a "spiritual signature" rather than a lingering soul? Kind of like... you walk in wet sand and leave footprints, then go swimming and drown. Your physical body dies. Your soul flees and goes where it belongs. But those footprints are still there... they are still a reflection of your life, of you as a living being, of your ACTIONS as a living being... perhaps ghosts are something similar.
I tihnk I finally have somewhat of an understanding of what you were trying to say...so here's my anology, what I think based on what I think I understand. If you drown, of course your body is going to die, and of course your footprints are going to be there until some water or wind wipes them away. Ghosts can not be a reflection of actions, as they are moving. Reflections of actions as a living being would be something like a home video of a father and son playing around together. A video or photograph or diary. Not actually you. A projection of what you were at some point in your life, not a wondering soul or ghost. How you put it, it makes it as though ghosts are figments of a persons imagination, which in many cases are true. But, that's my anology based on what I think I understand.
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