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05-03-2007, 11:33 AM
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Why Do We Suffer?
Why do people suffer? Does suffering ever have any meaning? Is the meaning of suffering, like the meaning of life, only what we make it? What do you think?
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Then I came back from where I'd been. My room, it looked the same - but there was nothing left between The Nameless and the name. - Leonard Cohen. 
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05-03-2007, 11:43 AM
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You live and you die, what you do in between times is your gig.
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"What a gorgeous day, what effulgent sunshine, why it was a day of this sort the McGillicuddy brothers murdered their mother with an ax" -W.C. Fields
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05-03-2007, 11:45 AM
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Sometimes life just sucks. There is no higher meaning or purpose in suffering, although sometimes through it we can learn something from it and about ourselves.
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Matthew 7:12, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
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05-03-2007, 12:00 PM
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05-03-2007, 12:03 PM
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I think suffering is both the truth and the consequence of Desire. Buddha was right.
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05-03-2007, 12:03 PM
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I think that's how it goes sometimes. You have to know bad to know good, I guess?
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The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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05-03-2007, 12:26 PM
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I interepret the question as, why do we create this 'suffering' for ourselves? Why do we do that to ourselves, when all we have to do is "let go" (forgive, both others and ourselves)? A lot of it is part of the web of illusions that we spin. We do it because it gives meaning to things, and that's our purpose --we give meaning to things.
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05-03-2007, 01:48 PM
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We suffer because we are emotional beings in a deterministic universe.
Because we are emotional, we put meaning beyond the logical interpretation to experiences. This meaning becomes our spirituality. Suffering is a part of it. It is a negative part, usually, but because we are capable of happiness and joy, we are able to overcome it and make it a positive experience.
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"I love the shade and the shadow, and would be alone with my thoughts when I may." - Bram Stoker's Dracula.
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05-03-2007, 03:00 PM
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Excellent thread Sunstone, and some really insightful answers IMO.
My take on it all is that in life pain is inevitable, but sufferring is usually self inflicted. Everyone has a schematic in their head of how they think the world and their life is supposed to be, and it seldom matches up perfectly with the way things are (it's sort of like trying to use a map of Detroit to find your way around Cleavland). Most of us interpret this discrepancy as "something's wrong", and we wind up sufferring over it. Alot of us spend alot of time like the guy starving in an orange grove because he's convinced himself he needs to find an apple. In retrospect in my own life, I can see that alot of things and events that I had termed "tragedies" turned out to be the greatest blessings. Alot of things that I thought were blessings turned out to be huge mistakes. To echo what a cpl other people have said in here I think we suffer because we judge--people, events, things--when we'd be better off trying to understand.
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