Pro-choicers? (birth control, beliefs, abortion)

Quiddity · #1 04-17-2007, 05:33 PM

NOT AN ABORTION THREAD....read below

Alright, first and foremost, this thread IS NOT intended to be a debate (It may not even turn into one. We’ll see) about when life begins or whether a fetus is a person, human, etc. Instead, I’m looking to understand the motivations behind the pro-choicer. As I understand it, there are a couple different types of pro-choicers:

He/she believes in the right for the women to choose (as it relates to abortion) but defining when the fetus is a person is irrelevant to them. Meaning, whether it’s a person or not, they’d still support the women’s right to choose.
He/she believes in the right for the women to choose (as it relates to abortion) but the defining of when the fetus is a person is relevant. Meaning, if they believed a women wanted to abort at 8 months, it would make a significant difference to their support of it. ßSome pro-choicers would consider them pro-lifers.

Is my observation correct? Do all pro-choicers essentially fit in no. 1? Or does the defining of the fetus as a person play a huge factor to most of them?

I’d appreciate your thoughts.

bflydad · #2 04-17-2007, 05:43 PM

Personally I am pro-choice and I fit in to #1. While my personal beliefs as to when a fetus becomes a person would influence whether I would want someone I got pregant to have an abortion, Iam pro-choice because I believe the question of when a fetus becomes a person is a belief not a fact.

I don't know if that came out right. Let me know if I need to clarify.

Ðanisty · #3 04-17-2007, 05:45 PM

Most pro-choicers have personal standards, but the ones I've met are very reluctant to make restrictions based on their personal standards.

Ultimately, pro-choice is about the choice. It doesn't need to involve the arguments put forth by pro-lifers because pro-choice is primarily about the woman...not the fetus. Do I dislike that some women use it as a form of birth control? Of course. Would I prefer that abortions are performed early on? Definitely. However, my feelings about those things aren't nearly important enough for me to try and make decisions for other women.

Mike182 · #4 04-17-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ðanisty

Ultimately, pro-choice is about the choice. It doesn't need to involve the arguments put forth by pro-lifers because pro-choice is primarily about the woman...not the fetus. Do I dislike that some women use it as a form of birth control? Of course. Would I prefer that abortions are performed early on? Definitely. However, my feelings about those things aren't nearly important enough for me to try and make decisions for other women.

is exactly how i feel.

Quiddity · #5 04-17-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bflydad

Personally I am pro-choice and I fit in to #1. While my personal beliefs as to when a fetus becomes a person would influence whether I would want someone I got pregant to have an abortion, Iam pro-choice because I believe the question of when a fetus becomes a person is a belief not a fact.

I don't know if that came out right. Let me know if I need to clarify.

That made sense. Except on a emperical level, our government has to define when someone becomes a person. It's got detrimental affects on how we prosecute and all that.

Ðanisty · #6 04-17-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Victor

That made sense. Except on a emperical level, our government has to define when someone becomes a person. It's got detrimental affects on how we prosecute and all that.

The government has already defined this as a human that's been born for just about every practical reason I can think of.

Circle_One · #7 04-17-2007, 05:59 PM

As usual, I completely concur with Danisty.

I am pro-choice and I fit into the first category. I am pro-choice, not because I think women should have abortions, but rather because I think they should have the choice to have one, if they want to.