Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Everything But the Kitchen Sink / General Debates
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-20-2007, 08:12 AM
coberst Offline
Title:Sophmore Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 219
Frubals: 10880
coberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to all
Default Do you think we need a 'value North Star'?

Do you think we need a ‘value North Star’?

It appears to me that we sapiens need a ‘value North Star’ upon which to fix our voyage. We need a reference point upon which we can focus our attention when trying to determine what of value we can and should do in life.

Religion, or God, serves as the ‘value North Star’ for some people; for others it is nationalism; for others, that fix is to own as much good stuff as possible; to others it is power; for some it is family; and I guess there are many other such ultimate values.

I have tried to examine my inner voices to determine just what my value North Star is and does it need to be changed. I have determined that, by some turn of events, perhaps completely willy-nilly, my value North Star is life on this planet. My guidance for fixing value is ultimately dependent upon its aiding or hindering life on this planet.

I often speculate that human life is a hindrance to maximizing the ‘good life’, of all life, on this planet. I often speculate that if all life on this planet were given a vote in this matter that they would throw sapiens overboard.

What do you think?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-20-2007, 08:15 AM
michel's Avatar
michel Offline
Religion: Christian by Gnosis
Title:Administrator Emeritus
Above and Beyond Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers for your work on the newsletter and is well deserved. Creative Thread Award:  - Issue reason:  Research Award:  - Issue reason:  Article Award:  - Issue reason:  Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: U.K
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,131
Frubals: 1296317
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
Default

For "value North Star" I suggest you substitute "Absolute fram of reference" - a standard that is universally acceptable to all - which (in some ways) is far easier to define in Religion that it is in secular society, because religion covers so much more "ground".
__________________
My life is an open book; if you don't like the read, put me back on the shelf ....................
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-20-2007, 08:34 AM
Sunstone's Avatar
Sunstone Offline
Religion: Girls On Trampolines!
Title:De diablo del fora
Above and Beyond Award:  - Issue reason: Link Exchange project Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason: 10,000 posts Creative Thread Award:  - Issue reason:  Humor Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Colorado, USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,005
Frubals: 7568204
Sunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal WhoreSunstone is a Frubal Whore
Sunstone is a Frubal Whore
Default

Any one dimensional value system is dangerous.
__________________
Then I came back from where I'd been.
My room, it looked the same -
but there was nothing left between
The Nameless and the name.
- Leonard Cohen.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-20-2007, 12:07 PM
coberst Offline
Title:Sophmore Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 219
Frubals: 10880
coberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by michel
For "value North Star" I suggest you substitute "Absolute fram of reference" - a standard that is universally acceptable to all - which (in some ways) is far easier to define in Religion that it is in secular society, because religion covers so much more "ground".
I fail to comprehend.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-20-2007, 12:37 PM
angellous_evangellous's Avatar
angellous_evangellous Offline
Religion: Christian
Title:pater familias
Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason: 10,000 posts Scholarship Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to your peers and is well deserved. Humor Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. Article Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: D/FW, TX
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,198
Frubals: 4854531
angellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whore
angellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whore
angellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whoreangellous_evangellous is a Frubal Whore
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by coberst
my value North Star is life on this planet. My guidance for fixing value is ultimately dependent upon its aiding or hindering life on this planet.
It's good that you have a clear, specific goal in mind.
__________________
"Scully, one of these days, we're going to look back on this moment and laugh." - Fox
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-20-2007, 12:56 PM
eudaimonia Offline
Religion: Have left this site
Title:Fellowship of Reason
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sweden
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,326
Frubals: 203266
eudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond repute
eudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by coberst
Do you think we need a ‘value North Star’?


Yes, since we need a standard of value by which to evaluate and prioritize our system of values. Anything else yields conflictedness, and ultimately ambivalence.

Quote:
I often speculate that human life is a hindrance to maximizing the ‘good life’, of all life, on this planet. I often speculate that if all life on this planet were given a vote in this matter that they would throw sapiens overboard.


And why should we care about this?


eudaimonia,

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-20-2007, 12:58 PM
eudaimonia Offline
Religion: Have left this site
Title:Fellowship of Reason
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sweden
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,326
Frubals: 203266
eudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond repute
eudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond reputeeudaimonia has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunstone
Any one dimensional value system is dangerous.
What is a "one dimensional value system", and why is one dangerous?


eudaimonia,

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-20-2007, 04:05 PM
coberst Offline
Title:Sophmore Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 219
Frubals: 10880
coberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to allcoberst is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eudaimonia
[/size][/font]

Yes, since we need a standard of value by which to evaluate and prioritize our system of values. Anything else yields conflictedness, and ultimately ambivalence.



And why should we care about this?


eudaimonia,

Mark
My value North Star tells me we should but most people do not have my same value system. We have a marvelous aptitude for science and a lousey aptitude for moral decisions thus we go around killing one another constantly.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Similar Threads


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:05 PM.


© 2008 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.