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Yes, we need a pledge of allegiance. 4 12.12%
No, we do not need a pledge of allegiance. 29 87.88%
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:45 AM
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There have been many RF threads discussing the words "Under God" in the U.S. Pledge of allegiance. My question is do we need a pledge of allegiance at all? If so, why?
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It's just an expression of national loyalty and solidarity. I don't think we need to make more of it than it is. As long as no one is being forced to make such a pledge, or punished for not making one, I think we can safely just let it be what it is.
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under God is a term, what you belive in. in the early christiam day Christ preached and was sustianed that all men should preach acording to the dectates of there own hearts, it is this princable that the USA stand on the free to belive in what ever you want to belive in, whither it be science or Jesus Christ it is the same under the flag and protected under it, without it then we will forget what it means to have free and lieberities...
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I see no need for a U.S. pledge of allegiance. It should be assumed that all U.S. citizens are loyal to this country unless they indicate by words or actions that they are not. Reciting a pledge is no proof of loyalty. A person who is dedicated to destroying this country could easily recite the pledge.
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under God is a term, what you belive in. in the early christiam day Christ preached and was sustianed that all men should preach acording to the dectates of there own hearts, it is this princable that the USA stand on the free to belive in what ever you want to belive in, whither it be science or Jesus Christ it is the same under the flag and protected under it, without it then we will forget what it means to have free and lieberities...
The words "under God" are not the topic of this thread. The topic is "Do we need a pledge of allegiance?"
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I see no need for a U.S. pledge of allegiance. It should be assumed that all U.S. citizens are loyal to this country unless they indicate by words or actions that they are not. Reciting a pledge is no proof of loyalty. A person who is dedicated to destroying this country could easily recite the pledge.
But you and I may see no need for lots of things that other people just like to have around. I don't think there being no "need" for it justifies getting rid of it. And how do you propose that we get rid of it, anyway, make it illegal to say out loud?
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No, I don't believe we "need" it at all. And it could use a few changes, or least omissions.
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i think it's a bit silly. why should someone pledge their allegiance to the abstract concept of a nation? what if one is opposed to one's government's policies, legislation, or structure? should one be obliged to swear allegiance to these things? no, i don't see why they should. i asked a Czech friend about this, and he smiled and said how odd it looked to many Europeans to see american children with their hands over their hearts, swearing allegiance to their flag and country. he said it had always reminded him of the Hitler Youth.
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