Date Rape (reject, choice, mission, experience, recall)

[kevmicsmi]

Originally Posted by The Giz

First I'd like to say that though I agree to a certain extent that alcohol doesn't affect decisions as much as portrayed. However, many women do have a lower tolerance for alcohol than men. Also I think that if the woman is drunk and the man isn't it should be considered rape in almost all of the cases. Men should be able to assess the situation well enough (especially if sober) to know that sex isn't a good idea at the moment. Also I have a lot of male friends and I've heard them talk about alcohol in the terms of "panty droppers" because when girls drink their easier to have sex with. Honestly if I were a man I wouldn't touch a drunk girl with a ten foot pole. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Something "not being a good idea" is different from something being a jailable offense.

[The Giz]

Originally Posted by kai

alcohol is a very powerful drug that drops your inhibitions , its a mind altering drug, some people get extrememly violent when drinking,i cant see how anyone who hasnt drunk alcohol heavily, would not agree that alcohol alters your whole perspective in decision making whilst drunk

I wasn't saying that it doesn't affect your decisions. I was saying that I don't think it's as bad as people like to say it is. I don't drink very often so I have a fairly low tolerance. And Yes my inhibitions are lower, but I still know when enough is enough. I'm still alert enough to say I wouldn't normally do this and I would regret this later so don't do it. It's about drinking responsibly. Now of course I understand not everyone is going to be able to do that.

And Yes I think it should be a jailable offence for either party. You can visibly see if someone is drunk. I tend to treat drunk people like children and that's how I see it. If you're sober, you're the adult in the situation and taking advantage of a child who may not understand the consequences of their decisions. This may not be the most apt analogy, but it's the first one that came to mind.

Obviously there are going to be situations where he/she's not that drunk, he/she's lying, he/she just regrets it, but I think that that's for the courts to decide. There's no easy solution and there is a lot of grey. But I'd rather convict some rapists than let all of them go because a person thinks this isn't really rape.