Heterosexuality, Incest, Polygamy and Homosexuality (marriage)

Feathers in Hair · #1 05-01-2006, 07:28 PM

This thread is being created so that people might discuss why they believe these issues are the same or why they are different without distracting from the topic of another thread.

evearael · #2 05-01-2006, 07:33 PM

To clarify, is this limited to the actions of consenting adults?

kevmicsmi · #3 05-01-2006, 07:36 PM

I will quote myself from another thread

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if you are against polygamist marriage or incestual marriage, how can you possibly be for gay marriage....You are just expanding your inclusiveness, not arguing for complete non-discriminatuion.....What if they were born that way? If you answer no to polygamy or incest marriage, you have logically defeated your argument to gay marriage in my opinion.

Feathers in Hair · #4 05-01-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by evearael

To clarify, is this limited to the actions of consenting adults?

That's a good question. These things usually degrade into pedophilia soon enough, but let's see how long people can last by limiting this to the actions of consenting adults.

nutshell · #5 05-01-2006, 08:10 PM

Consenting adults are free to decide what they and the government of the people is free to make any laws regulating such behavior.

pdoel · #6 05-01-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kevmicsmi

if you are against polygamist marriage or incestual marriage, how can you possibly be for gay marriage....You are just expanding your inclusiveness, not arguing for complete non-discriminatuion.....What if they were born that way? If you answer no to polygamy or incest marriage, you have logically defeated your argument to gay marriage in my opinion.

Taking that a step further, if you are against gay marriage, incestual relationships or polygamy, how can you possibly be for the institution of marriage at all. If same-sex relations are the same as incest or polygamy, then aren't they all the same as opposite sex relations as well?

Wouldn't all types of relations really be in the same boat? So if you are against any of these, how can you possibly be pro-marriage at all?

Feathers in Hair · #7 05-01-2006, 08:26 PM

That's very true. Allowing heterosexual marriage is just inviting incestuous and polygamous marriage.

kevmicsmi · #8 05-01-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pdoel

Taking that a step further, if you are against gay marriage, incestual relationships or polygamy, how can you possibly be for the institution of marriage at all. If same-sex relations are the same as incest or polygamy, then aren't they all the same as opposite sex relations as well?

Wouldn't all types of relations really be in the same boat? So if you are against any of these, how can you possibly be pro-marriage at all?

Yes, but the most common argument against Gay marriage is that people feel it is strictly between a man and woman that are un related. I disagree with that position. But if it is argued that marriage should be defined more broadly for consenting adults, how can you possibly include same sex marriages, and leave out polygamist, and incestual relationships?

Feathers in Hair · #9 05-01-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kevmicsmi

Yes, but the most common argument against Gay marriage is that people feel it is strictly between a man and woman that are un related. I disagree with that position. But if it is argued that marriage should be defined more broadly for consenting adults, how can you possibly include same sex marriages, and leave out polygamist, and incestual relationships?

Marriage is not being argued as to being defined 'more broadly'. There (usually) are two unrelated adults in a heterosexual relationship. Wanting two unrelated adults to be able to marry is not defining it as more broadly. It's defining it as the same.