Why Jesus Died And Rose Again ? (Jesus Christ, Moses, Earth, crucifixion)

[bhakthi]

BHAKTHI,
Why Jesus Died And Rose Again ?
One of the greatest lies ever made about Jesus was about His death and resurrection. While Jesus was on earth with his disciples he predicted about his sufferings, death and resurrection at least a dozen times. Just before going to Jerusalem for the last time, where he was crucified, Jesus spoke to his disciples about everything that would happen to him there.[About his death on the cross and being raised on the third day] A few days before this Moses and Elijah appeared to him and spoke about his death which was about to take place in Jerusalem.[Luke;9:30]Jesus had time and power to escape from the enemies’ plot if he wanted to do so because being a powerful prophet he knew all about it.

Why Did Jesus Have To Die On The Cross ?

One of the main reasons Jesus came to the earth was to die on the cross and thus make atonement for the sins of all mankind. About seven hundred years before the birth of Jesus, Prophet Isaiah prophesied so many things concerning Jesus including his sufferings and death on the cross.In one place he wrote. ”But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed."Isaiah;53:5 Jesus came as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.[John;1:29.]This is why Jesus gave himself up for crucifixion-To be sacrificed as the Lamb of God.Jesus spoke about this," No one takes it [ My life] from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again"John;10:18 Just as he said he would Jesus gave up his life and took it back according to God’s command and will.
Jesus Died And Rose Again According To The Scriptures-
Jesus did not die secretly in an unknown place.Jesus died publicly, in the broad day light.A whole city and a great crowd watched him dying on the cross.His mother and his disciples were among them and he spoke to them.A series of events like great darkness and earthquake took place at the time of his death.Witnessing all that the Roman soldiers and their captain feared greatly and said,"Truly this was the Son of God." Mathew; 27:54. On the third day after God raised him from the dead.Jesus showed the nail marks on his hands to his disciples and proved that he died and rose again.Since Lord Jesus himself spoke about his death before it happens and proved that he lives again and his disciples witnessed all this and they testified to that -who do you believe? Jesus and his disciples or someone else? The Holy Bible says,”God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son,that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life."John;3:16.Jesus did not die for a particular nation or people but he died for the whole world.The cross of Jesus Christ is the place where sins are forgiven .The whole world sinned and became guilty before God.But Jesus made atonement for sins. It is through the Cross of Jesus Christ, God dealt with all the major enemies of mankind like sin, death, satan and Hades and much more. Jesus Christ came out of the tomb[The only tomb in history which was sealed by the Roman government and guarded by soldiers] and said, ”I have the keys of death and hades.”

[greatcalgarian]

I do not think Jesus knew everything ahead of time.
Mark 27:46, he was asking a question. Any one has an answer to Jesus's question?

[bhakthi]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

I do not think Jesus knew everything ahead of time.
Mark 27:46, he was asking a question. Any one has an answer to Jesus's question?

BHAKTHI-:I guess you mean Mathew;27:46.This is what happened.
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"
There are many who think just because God did not answer or save Jesus from the cross,God did forsake him.But God did not forsake Jesus.
If God saved Jesus from the cross,His eternal plan would have been spoiled.It was God's commandment and will that Christ should die on the cross.Jesus was a human being like you and me.When the time came he thought about avoiding the shame and the pain and the horrible death on the cross for a moment but knowing that it was the will of God he surrendered to that will saying,"Not my will but thy will be done."
But like the rest of all human beings Jesus did not remain in Sheol and his body dod not see corruption.It was witten in Psalm" For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."Psalm;16:10.
God raised him from the dead and made him sit at His right hand on the throne in heaven.Jesus said he received all authority in heaven and earth.[Psalm;110 is all about this] All believers,great or small have to go through similar situations when they feel like God has forsaken them.Jesus was no exception.

[joeboonda]

I am confused, do you believe Jesus died for our sins and rose again, or not? I believe he did and that the most important decision we can make in life is whether to believe this or not believe it. I don't understand your position, for or against?

[Deut 13:1]

Originally Posted by bhakthi

BHAKTHI,
Why Jesus Died And Rose Again ?
One of the greatest lies ever made about Jesus was about His death and resurrection. While Jesus was on earth with his disciples he predicted about his sufferings, death and resurrection at least a dozen times. Just before going to Jerusalem for the last time, where he was crucified, Jesus spoke to his disciples about everything that would happen to him there.[About his death on the cross and being raised on the third day] A few days before this Moses and Elijah appeared to him and spoke about his death which was about to take place in Jerusalem.[Luke;9:30]Jesus had time and power to escape from the enemies’ plot if he wanted to do so because being a powerful prophet he knew all about it.

Why Did Jesus Have To Die On The Cross ?

One of the main reasons Jesus came to the earth was to die on the cross and thus make atonement for the sins of all mankind. About seven hundred years before the birth of Jesus, Prophet Isaiah prophesied so many things concerning Jesus including his sufferings and death on the cross.In one place he wrote. ”But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed."Isaiah;53:5 Jesus came as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.[John;1:29.]This is why Jesus gave himself up for crucifixion-To be sacrificed as the Lamb of God.Jesus spoke about this," No one takes it [ My life] from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again"John;10:18 Just as he said he would Jesus gave up his life and took it back according to God’s command and will.
Jesus Died And Rose Again According To The Scriptures-
Jesus did not die secretly in an unknown place.Jesus died publicly, in the broad day light.A whole city and a great crowd watched him dying on the cross.His mother and his disciples were among them and he spoke to them.A series of events like great darkness and earthquake took place at the time of his death.Witnessing all that the Roman soldiers and their captain feared greatly and said,"Truly this was the Son of God." Mathew; 27:54. On the third day after God raised him from the dead.Jesus showed the nail marks on his hands to his disciples and proved that he died and rose again.Since Lord Jesus himself spoke about his death before it happens and proved that he lives again and his disciples witnessed all this and they testified to that -who do you believe? Jesus and his disciples or someone else? The Holy Bible says,”God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son,that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life."John;3:16.Jesus did not die for a particular nation or people but he died for the whole world.The cross of Jesus Christ is the place where sins are forgiven .The whole world sinned and became guilty before God.But Jesus made atonement for sins. It is through the Cross of Jesus Christ, God dealt with all the major enemies of mankind like sin, death, satan and Hades and much more. Jesus Christ came out of the tomb[The only tomb in history which was sealed by the Roman government and guarded by soldiers] and said, ”I have the keys of death and hades.”

Plagurism.1001

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by bhakthi

BHAKTHI-:I guess you mean Mathew;27:46.This is what happened.
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"
There are many who think just because God did not answer or save Jesus from the cross,God did forsake him.But God did not forsake Jesus.
If God saved Jesus from the cross,His eternal plan would have been spoiled.It was God's commandment and will that Christ should die on the cross.Jesus was a human being like you and me.When the time came he thought about avoiding the shame and the pain and the horrible death on the cross for a moment but knowing that it was the will of God he surrendered to that will saying,"Not my will but thy will be done."
But like the rest of all human beings Jesus did not remain in Sheol and his body dod not see corruption.It was witten in Psalm" For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."Psalm;16:10.
God raised him from the dead and made him sit at His right hand on the throne in heaven.Jesus said he received all authority in heaven and earth.[Psalm;110 is all about this] All believers,great or small have to go through similar situations when they feel like God has forsaken them.Jesus was no exception.

My question is not about whether God the Father has forshaken God the Son. My question is:
If Jesus is asking that question during his last hour or last minute or last second in his earthly existence, does that mean he does not know what His father is doing, or what is in the plan for him? You have not answer the question as all.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Bhakthi

One of the greatest lies ever made about Jesus

I stopped reading right here. This is probably the most offensive line of crap that I have read on this board. It is inflammatory, offensive and not designed to engender a true debate.

[bhakthi]

Originally Posted by joeboonda

I am confused, do you believe Jesus died for our sins and rose again, or not? I believe he did and that the most important decision we can make in life is whether to believe this or not believe it. I don't understand your position, for or against?

BHAKTHI- :"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed."Isaiah;53:5
"But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God,"Hebrews;10:12

[bhakthi]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

My question is not about whether God the Father has forshaken God the Son. My question is:
If Jesus is asking that question during his last hour or last minute or last second in his earthly existence, does that mean he does not know what His father is doing, or what is in the plan for him? You have not answer the question as all.

Yes he knew the plan of God the Father and he spoke about it many times before.The pain and torment were more than he could bear.Wouldn't you and me cry out like that if we went through a simiar situation?The patriarchs and the prophets knew the plan of God.Moses was chosen to lead the Israelites to the promised land.Didn't he get upset when he faced difficulties?Why did David cry out when he went through troubles and sorrows?

[Deut 13:1]

Originally Posted by bhakthi

BHAKTHI- :"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed."Isaiah;53:5
"But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God,"Hebrews;10:12

Why is this in past tense?

We WERE healed, not present tense.