Liberalism is a sign of weakness - The slaves revolt!

[nnmartin]

There are various types of Liberal and many seem to focus on championing the rights of minorities - I see this as a sign of weakness.

Why would anyone care so much about supposedly oppressed groups that they are not even a member of?

groups such as, ethnic minorities, feminists, gays, the whales, badgers and rainforests - for example.

(ok, the rainforests aren't exactly a group as such , but you know what I mean).

Now this is slave mentality, a la Nietzsche, in full operation mode.

We tend to relate to the weak oppressed groups here as it gives us a sense of power in which to hide our own weakness, but secretly yearn to be the powerful ones ourselves.

Political Correctness tends to be one of the choice weapons for these type of people - and hence should be done away with.

PC = Oppression.

Liberalism = Oppression and leadership of the weak.

who agrees that most liberals and PC activists are only this way inclined because they secretly desire what they are opposing?

[freethinker44]

BOOOOO!! Two thumbs down.

[Revoltingest]

I'm weak....& proud of it.

[nnmartin]

are you a liberal though, Mr Gest?

[Revoltingest]

Originally Posted by nnmartin

are you a liberal though, Mr Gest?

I am a classical liberal, aka Jeffersonian) liberal, aka libertarian.
'Modern liberals' in the USA really aren't all that liberal, since they're big on government regulation of some aspects of our lives.
I prefer to call them "leftists".

[averageJOE]

I like peanut butter.

[Revoltingest]

Originally Posted by averageJOE

I like peanut butter.

Especially the natural krunchy kind.

[Sir Doom]

Originally Posted by nnmartin

There are various types of Liberal and many seem to focus on championing the rights of minorities - I see this as a sign of weakness.

Do you see the opposite as a sign of strength?

Why would anyone care so much about supposedly oppressed groups that they are not even a member of?

I think mainly because I view those groups as part of a larger group. The human species. We're all part of that, aren't we?

groups such as, ethnic minorities, feminists, gays, the whales, badgers and rainforests - for example.

(ok, the rainforests aren't exactly a group as such , but you know what I mean).

I thought I knew what you meant, until you mentioned badgers and whales and rain forests. Now I think you don't even know what you mean.

Now this is slave mentality, a la Nietzsche, in full operation mode.

I think you mean "slave morality". There is a reason people are so highly critical of Nietzsche. He said a lot of things that weren't necessarily true. Like, "Man that looks like a fiiiiiiiine piece of horse." nowudameen?

We tend to relate to the weak oppressed groups here as it gives us a sense of power in which to hide our own weakness, but secretly yearn to be the powerful ones ourselves.

The problem with Nietzsche's view on the subject is that he had a very dim view of what power was. Liberation is power. Equality is power. Just as two people are more powerful than one, so are all humans more powerful than less than all humans. Get it?

Political Correctness tends to be one of the choice weapons for these type of people - and hence should be done away with.

PC = Oppression.

I will agree that PC is stupid and should be disregarded as a weak distraction from the truth. It perpetuates the very ideal it seeks to destroy. Counterproductive.

Liberalism = Oppression and leadership of the weak.

Not all liberals agree with political correctness. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people who do believe it is good are less liberal than those that don't. It's an oppression in and of itself, like you say. That's not liberal at all. Remember, just because you say you are something doesn't mean you are.

who agrees that most liberals and PC activists are only this way inclined because they secretly desire what they are opposing?

So you think that liberalism is secretly attempting to oppress minorities through the liberal application of anti-oppression? You're going to have to run that by me one more time.

[Shuddhasattva]

Being concerned with signs and social signalling is a sign of, if not weakness, stupidity.

[Egyptian Phoenix]

So let me get this right. Being liberal means we secretly desire to be racist, sexist, homophobic, and all that? Plus our protecting the environment and animals means we secretly want to pollute the environment and abuse animals?

Um... I'm not sure how to address your logic without making it personal.

I'm bowing out of this discussion.