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Old 04-29-2012, 10:40 AM
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The key word above is "observable" or that which can be perceived by the conceptual mind.

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ok so this got into the Ajax chat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_triangle


but we need a real example of one that needs to be a black hole with negative mass for that...

also me and poly debated if blackhole singularites were, and he said the math becomes reality at that point and I retorted that we can't know that as it's behind the event horizon.

so if we spin a black hole fast enough apparently we can get the horizon out (i assume this happens durring formation) and observe the naked singularity to see if it's truly infinitesimally thin/small or if it is the planck length in diamter.


I still hold that no real life physical examples of infinity exist.
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At the point in which reality ends, it will never have existed.

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And we then have infinitely nothing? I dont think that would work.
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Tis an arguable point, but one which is above my pay grade.
Rearranging elements = permutation. For any finite set A with a finite number of elements n, the cardinality of the set of all permutations of A, denoted Sym(A), is simply n!. The factorial of any finite number will also be finite.
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lies you cant ever reach infinity but in abstract constructs, not physical ones like time and space.
When did time become a "physical construct"?
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When did time become a "physical construct"?
ever since it was part of of the fabric of reality?
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ever since it was part of of the fabric of reality?
Time is not a force or a substance.
It is only a quotient on a chalkboard.

As time has been mentioned....
I heard somewhere, mass approaches infinity as the speed of light is obtained.

Anyone got any 'real numbers' for that?
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Time is not a force or a substance.
It is only a quotient on a chalkboard.

As time has been mentioned....
I heard somewhere, mass approaches infinity as the speed of light is obtained.

Anyone got any 'real numbers' for that?
Time is now. Measurements of matter, speed, etc are mental perceptions. The only number that comes to mind is 1.

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Time is now. Measurements of matter, speed, etc are mental perceptions. The only number that comes to mind is 1.

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And we do agree...it's not a 'fabric'?

And I was hoping for that influence from Einstein's handiwork.
His equation implies an increase in mass as the speed of light is approached.
So I've heard.
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