Eating Pancakes Could Kill You (Darwin, heaven, Article)

[FFH]

This one claims to be better than the "Wonder Mill/Whisper Mill"

Link: Nutrimill Grain Mill

[Booko]

Anything can kill you if you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by ChrisP

the truth in that statement....

Yeah, maybe we should start a thread on the goofy things they put in instruction manuals because idiots might actually do it. Especially the ones that are bad translations -- those are the best.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by FFH

Here's the grinder I use.

Thanks so much for all this great info...where do you get your grain from? Local sources or do you have to special order?

[FFH]

Originally Posted by Booko

Thanks so much for all this great info...where do you get your grain from? Local sources or do you have to special order?

I purchase my grains from a local mom and pop business, although, if you go to your nearest health food store, you can request 25 pound bags of wheat and other grains, but brown rice is sold in 10 pound bags. Brown rice seems to deteriorate much faster than wheat, which I've stored for up to 6 years, rice on the other hand seems to go bad after a year.

The weavels eat away at soft wheat within this time frame, at least that's been my experience, especially if I don't keep the lids tightly sealed. There is different grades of hardness or softness. Harder wheat lasts longer, some up to 25 years, depending on the hardness, but it makes for bad baking, so I use the softer wheat, but it doesn't last as long, but I don't need it to, because I use it up within the time allowed, also there are ways to extend the life of the wheat. Oxygen absorbers are placed within the containers of wheat, which extends the life quite a bit, but I don't bother with them. Wheat is only about 10 to 12 bucks for a 25 pound bag, and anyone can afford to lose half a bag, every 2 years or so, which is all I've ever lost.

We, as members of the LDS church, are required to have a two years supply of food, so many of us have stocked up on wheat and/or other grains, therefore there are a few local businesses that cater to our needs. Wheat grinders and mixers are also sold at these stores.

[FFH]

Booko, I have also gone to a wholesaler, Honeyville Grains, which is a huge local warehouse, where all the local businesses get their supplies.

So it's possible to go to your local wholesale supplier, of grains and other natural foods, and pick up supplies there, along with the 25 pound food storage containers, and whatever else you need.

Just look under grain wholesalers in the yellow pages.

[Shadow Wolf]

It's probably time to clean out the cupboards and toss everything that's too old.

Just checked, they experiation date is next month. Guess that rules the mix out.

Yeah, maybe we should start a thread on the goofy things they put in instruction manuals because idiots might actually do it.

If there's a warning label, its already been done.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by FFH

I purchase my grains from a local mom and pop business, although, if you go to your nearest health food store, you can request 25 pound bags of wheat and other grains, but brown rice is sold in 10 pound bags. Brown rice seems to deteriorate much faster than wheat, which I've stored for up to 6 years, rice on the other hand seems to go bad after a year.

Brown rice I can get in 25 lb bags here at the market. We have a huge Asian population and a decent sized Indian and Persian population, so it goes fast for them. I don't think I'd use it quite that fast, though. Brown rice flour is great in gluten-free mixes, but not by itself or the finished product is gummy. So then I add corn. But there's also amaranth, millet, and a ton of other things I could use as well, which might be worth considering.

The weavels eat away at soft wheat within this time frame, at least that's been my experience, especially if I don't keep the lids tightly sealed.

Do the weevils get into your grain, or is it one of those things where sometimes you get a few *along with* the grain? I've gotten pantry moths from nuts that way before.

There is different grades of hardness or softness. Harder wheat lasts longer, some up to 25 years, depending on the hardness, but it makes for bad baking, so I use the softer wheat,

Yes, I would probably want softer wheat too, because I use it pastry flour for fine baking of pastries and whatnot.

Oxygen absorbers are placed within the containers of wheat, which extends the life quite a bit, but I don't bother with them.

Is freezing an option? I always have room in the deep freeze.

Wheat is only about 10 to 12 bucks for a 25 pound bag, and anyone can afford to lose half a bag, every 2 years or so, which is all I've ever lost.

Yeah, considering how much they want for a 5 lb bag of graham flour, much less pastry flour, which is harder to find, I could afford to lose that much too.

Though actually I wouldn't. I would just feed it to my ducks. They need to eat a corn/wheat mix, minimally, to get all the amino acids they need. They eat all my weeds too, which is mighty convenient for me.

We, as members of the LDS church, are required to have a two years supply of food, so many of us have stocked up on wheat and/or other grains, therefore there are a few local businesses that cater to our needs. Wheat grinders and mixers are also sold at these stores.

Really? I had never heard of that, though given famine in the past, and the possibility of disruption of food supplies even now, that's generally a good policy.

Coming from the frozen north originally, I always have a good supply of food available that will store. We never knew when we might be snowed in. It pays to be prepared at all times.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf

Just checked, they experiation date is next month. Guess that rules the mix out.

Yeah, definitely.

Uh...couldn't you just keep some flour on hand and I'll give you my pancake recipe? It's really no harder than using a mix. With a mix, you still have to add your own eggs and milk and oil, right? You still have to measure the mix. So what time did they really save you? Oh wow! The time it takes to measure the baking powder? Pancake mixes are such a rip-off.

I have my teenagers so trained that my daughter just makes the mix from scratch (from memory) and my son cooks 'em while I work on the bacon. I use my George Foreman grill for that -- it loses a lot of the oil and keeps the grease from splattering all over.