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Old 07-13-2009, 04:43 AM
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No! but are you thinking they are?
how can you dissprove something that is real?

i don't get that?
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how can you dissprove something that is real?

i don't get that?
I know you dont.

But lets get back to your topic can you see now that there is evidence of a similar type of lung in therapods? and that the transition to the bird form we see today took millions of years?
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OK it doesnt say anything about that its about the respitory system in therapods and birds

reported on the basis of a comparative analysis of region-specific pneumaticity with extant birds, evidence for cervical and abdominal air-sac systems in non-avian theropods, along with thoracic skeletal prerequisites of an avian-style aspiration pump.The authors demonstrated by examination of an exceptional new specimen of Majungatholus atopus, (Majungasaurus), documenting these features in a taxon only distantly related to birds. Taken together, these specializations imply the existence of the basic avian pulmonary Bauplan in basal neotheropods, indicating that flow-through ventilation of the lung is not restricted to birds but is probably a general theropod characteristic."
ok so that animal is not the ancestor.

but look at the age difference. 150-145 compared to 115 million years. thats about 30-35 milion years of difference, it's not one day. the dino has existed way back after the archaeopteryx, so that example proves nothing.

so do you have anything else worth looking into? that supports a reptile with a bird like lung? that existed before or close to the archaeopteryx?
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I know you dont.

But lets get back to your topic can you see now that there is evidence of a similar type of lung in therapods? and that the transition to the bird form we see today took millions of years?
you amaze me kai.

that lung came to exist in the therapods some 35 million years after the transitional fossil that scientists say is the missing link between birds and reptiles.

do you have something else?
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:55 AM
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you amaze me kai.
thank you
that lung came to exist in the therapods some 35 million years after the transitional fossil that scientists say is the missing link between birds and reptiles.
its just an example of the respitory system an answer to your post on bird lungs you are changing the subject slightly.you clearly infered in your post that it was impossible for bird lungs to evolve i showed you that it was indeed possible.
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Archaeopteryx is the first clear candidate for a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and birds. Thus, Archaeopteryx plays an important role not only in the study of the origin of birds but in the study of dinosaurs. and esalam dinosaurs are not reptiles.
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yes he is done and dusted been dead for quite some time.

i never said idiot, but since you mentioned it, yeah sure why not.
It seems to me Esalam that yourself and many religious people take Darwins TOE as an attack on your respective religions which isn't true
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It seems to me Esalam that yourself and many religious people take Darwins TOE as an attack on your respective religions which isn't true
oh come on Dr Phil can we please stop with these psychiatric lessons.

is that the best you 2 can do, turn the argument on my religion?
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ok you know what, lets wait for the proper evolutionists to respond.

if it was 1 english man yeah, but 2?
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Archaeopteryx is the first clear candidate for a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and birds. Thus, Archaeopteryx plays an important role not only in the study of the origin of birds but in the study of dinosaurs.
so does any of the many archaeopteryxes found have a half reptilian half bird lung?

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aren't they? i thought they were.
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