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Old 01-05-2005, 02:41 PM
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Assuming evolution is true, and assuming that nature is the handiwork of a deity, then what does nature and evolution say about the nature of the diety that created them?
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Assuming evolution is true, and assuming that nature is the handiwork of a deity, then what does nature and evolution say about the nature of the diety that created them?
It would seem to me that this diety was a "Low Maintanence" kinda being.

Evolutionary systems are fairly self sustaining.

I don`t think he/she/it wanted to be much involved beyond creation.
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What does the fact that nature is organized into ecosystems teach us about this supposed deity? Isn't it true that in ecosystems, things live in a dynamic balance with each other? And isn't this balance otherwise amoral? That is to say, nature itself seems to be amoral. So, doesn't nature teach us that this supposed deity is amoral?
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Assuming evolution is true, and assuming that nature is the handiwork of a deity, then what does nature and evolution say about the nature of the diety that created them?
Absolutely nothing.

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Assuming evolution is true, and assuming that nature is the handiwork of a deity, ...
Evolution is not purposeful. There is no intended handiwork, only consequence.
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Perhaps it tells us that God is much more subversive than we realise. God is not content to be "out there" but is deeply, emotionally involved in God's creative work.

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I want you all to read Terry Pratchett's the Last Continent now. It has the god of evolution in it...he's a bit of an atheist, himself.

Personally, I happen to think evolution is a lot cooler than *POOF!* species appearing. Somehow the second one doesn't seem to be giving the deity enough credit, it really just seems a human way of doing it.
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I think evolution is God's way of promoting the whole "free will" thing. He wanted us to choose him and have fellowship, and I think evolution is the perfect way of that fellowship. It gives not only us, but all life "free will" and allows it to run it's own course. Plus, most new-earth creationists believe that the end is near. My question is why would God only use 6-8000 years for his masterpeice when he's got all eternity? Evolution would allow God to have an unlimited continuation of fellowship, until "the end", which could, in itself, only be another level of the evolutionary process, allowing for a higher lifeform fo fellowship with God.
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