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View Poll Results: Is believing in evolution a sin?
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:22 AM
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If you believe evolution, I believe that you are a sinner !

Do you know the origins of life according to Evolution ?
From the Book of Darwin Ch 1;
v.1 In the beginning there was nothing
Then some nothings got together and became something
v.2 Then something exploded ( the “big bang” )
Millions of years passed by.
As the gaseous remains of the “big bang” spread out
Some of it became galaxies, stars, and planets
v.3 Millions of years passed by.
On the planets it rained and it rained
v.4 Millions of years passed by.
Some rocks dissolved into puddles,
And this became the primordial soup
v.5 Millions of years passed by.
Something in the soup decided to be life
v.6 Millions of years passed by.
This “life” mutated and mutated and
v.7 Millions of years passed by.
this is where ALL life comes from!

Yeah Right!

Give me the Genesis account of CREATION as it is much more believable.

May God bless you as you study His Word

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As a New Zealander i expected you to be more logical in your reasoning. The education isnt that bad champ.

Creation is garbage, "God did this and God did that" stands for lack of human understanding, and ignorance. Rather than searching for answers you simply give up and attribute everything to God. That's disappointing that you refute logical scientific evidence, it really is. May your God have mercy on your lack of reasoning
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(All comments are welcome in this thread, but I would ask that only creationists vote in the poll.)

Is believing in evolution a sin? In other words do you believe that “God” commands you not to accept the theory of evolution? Do you believe that “God” requires you to stand firm in a creationists viewpoint.

Or do you believe that it would be acceptable to believe in the theory of evolution if the evidence were sufficient to convince you.
I don't see how it could be a sin.

I believe that God is the origin of all life. I accept the bible's account of how the earth came to be but it makes sense to me that creation took place over a long span of time and that changes occurred to creation, during that time frame.

Believing that evolution was part of God's creative process makes Creation no less amazing or believable, in my honest opinion.
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It is evident from the old testament that jewish cleriks spouted this lies to their followers.
creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9.

“What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the Lord; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats. “When you come to appear before me, who has required of you this trampling of my courts? Bring no more vain offerings;

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Is believing in evolution a sin? In other words do you believe that “God” commands you not to accept the theory of evolution? Do you believe that “God” requires you to stand firm in a creationists viewpoint.

Or do you believe that it would be acceptable to believe in the theory of evolution if the evidence were sufficient to convince you.
I don't believe God really "requires" us to do anything but love and accept him. While I think obviously he would like us to believe in the Creation, he did give us free will, and thus, the ability to believe in evolution.

If the evidence of evolution was enough to convince you, knowing the alternative, and that's a theory you choose to follow, I think God's alright with it. Not happy, maybe, but alright. He knew what he was doing when he gave us free will.

And, in the end, God already knew if each of us was going to believe evolution or not. It's something he's already accounted for.
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Have any of you ever been on an Easter egg hunt when you were small? I have and I truly believed in the Easter bunny by virtue of all the eggs that I discovered.

Could it be that all that science has put together is like the Easter eggs that have been put there for us to discover and we are attributing that to evolution and not God the same way children attribute Easter eggs to the Easter bunny and not the parents who really put them there.

In order for us to prove our faithfulness to God we have to be given the opportunity to choose and for that to happen there has to be something else to choose from say... evolutionary theory.

There is plenty of evidence to support the existence of God and yes, although there can be arguments for the evolutionist to cling to, there are just too many assumptions made to avoid the evolutionist theory being degraded at every level.

I believe that we are discovering new things every day and I also believe that these things have a logical place in creation and that it is our own ignorance that prevents us from seeing the beginning from the end.

Using what we have been given to discover about our world to discredit the existence of a creator is like using Easter eggs to discredit the roll of our parents in the whole show.

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In order for us to prove our faithfulness to God we have to be given the opportunity to choose and for that to happen there has to be something else to choose from say... evolutionary theory.
What other theories do you have? Why must we choose something else when evolution is scientifically sound?
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There is plenty of evidence to support the existence of God

There is no evidence whatsoever supporting the existence of your god.
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although there can be arguments for the evolutionist to cling to, there are just too many assumptions made to avoid the evolutionist theory being degraded at every level.

What assumptions?
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What other theories do you have? Why must we choose something else when evolution is scientifically sound?

I will admit that one must believe in God to understand the concept of free agency and the need for choice to fulfill the purposes of God. It sounds like you have made yours, although unwittingly, you are falling in line and are being tried just like the rest of us, difference being that you simply choose not to see the obvious.
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There is no evidence whatsoever supporting the existence of your god.
Tell Albert Einstein that. Many years ago, Addressing a large group in Berkley, Calif., professor Einstein declared that the further he delved into the sciences of the universe, the more completely he was convinced that there was some force of intelligence, or "God" that had organized it and placed it there for our discovery. Professor Einstein is certainly not alone in this view of the universe amongst his peers.To put it in plain terms, the concept of "chance" being the founding cause of all creation is so astronomically small that Professor Einstein declared that it could be said to be non-existent. The supporting factors of creationism can be found in every particle of our existence from the massive complexities of the smallest neutron the organization and very existence of the greatest galaxies.
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Everything about creationism is an assumption when you consider that they are based on facts and findings wrought of man and his infinitely limited intellectual capacity (compared to our Heavenly Father). I believe that the sound of surprise spouted by half of those evolutionists when they are given all the information about creation will be deafening and matched only by the sound of the other half lamenting their own foolishness.
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To put it in plain terms, the concept of "chance" being the founding cause of all creation is so astronomically small that Professor Einstein declared that it could be said to be non-existent.
First, not all atheists will say that everything came to be because of "chance". Second, since no one (not even Einstein) knows how everything came to be, it is senseless to attempt to assign probabilities to it's likelihood.
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First, not all atheists will say that everything came to be because of "chance". Second, since no one (not even Einstein) knows how everything came to be, it is senseless to attempt to assign probabilities to it's likelihood.
Why is that? Mathmatics and it's relationship to the universe is the one constant that cannot be explained away. In fact, it is mathmatics that is the underlying driving force behind the evolutionary theory. If what you say is indeed true than there is no rhym or reason to anything including the concept of evolution. Me thinks you just shot yourself in the foot!
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