Expelled

[roli]

I have just watched this amazing eye opening video, which I have always had this from past articles and research, but this is sure to ruffle the feathers of some, as it did those who expelled the scientists.

My question and forgive me if this has already been discussed but it certainly begs the question " What is the big scare amongst the scientific community in well established universities, research centers, and other insitutions that house diverse experts in their field that cause them to shun those who even mention ID.

It makes me sit back and .... just a little!


...now of course the credibility of Ben Stien and those interviewed will be argued by someone on this forum, which would be a typical opening arguement ...but could we just take this whole documentry at face value and assume it's characters are real professionals and quite possiblly have lost their grants tenures ????/ or whatever.

What's your take on this????

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by roli

What is the big scare amongst the scientific community in well established universities, research centers, and other insitutions that house diverse experts in their field that cause them to shun those who even mention ID.

I suspect it's not so much a "scare" as a more disrespectful emotion.

There's another thread active on this topic.

[fantôme profane]

Originally Posted by roli

could we just take this whole documentry at face value and assume it's characters are real professionals and quite possiblly have lost their grants tenures?

No. I for one am neither willing nor capable of making this assumption. (at least not without a lobotomy and/or some serious medication)

Originally Posted by roli

What is the big scare amongst the scientific community in well established universities, research centers, and other insitutions that house diverse experts in their field that cause them to shun those who even mention ID.

The fear is that people are being mislead, deceived and miss educated by these I.D. proponents. But no one is shunned simply for mentioning I.D. (you have been mislead, deceived and miss-educated by this film)

[Women_Of_Reason]

ID doesn`t scares scientists... It insults them.

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by roli

I have just watched this amazing eye opening video, which I have always had this from past articles and research, but this is sure to ruffle the feathers of some, as it did those who expelled the scientists.

My question and forgive me if this has already been discussed but it certainly begs the question " What is the big scare amongst the scientific community in well established universities, research centers, and other insitutions that house diverse experts in their field that cause them to shun those who even mention ID.

It makes me sit back and .... just a little!


...now of course the credibility of Ben Stien and those interviewed will be argued by someone on this forum, which would be a typical opening arguement ...but could we just take this whole documentry at face value and assume it's characters are real professionals and quite possiblly have lost their grants tenures ????/ or whatever.

What's your take on this????

"Expelled" was made to preach to the choir, and "intelligent design" is shunned by the scientific community because it's simply doesn't meet the criteria to be considered a science.

Expelled Exposed: Why Expelled Flunks

[logician]

Logically, ID must fail, as the intelligent designer itself must be the product of ID, ad infinitum.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by roli

...now of course the credibility of Ben Stien

He is a deceitful, pompous, and repugnant fool.

[Women_Of_Reason]

Intelligent Design in short:

ID is not a scientific theory. It is nothing more than an attempt to refute natural selection... and a failed one I might add.

Proving that A is wrong in no way implies that B is correct.

Which is what ID does:

Natural selection is not real therefore God did it.

[roli]

Originally Posted by fantôme profane

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The fear is that people are being mislead, deceived and miss educated by these I.D. proponents. But no one is shunned simply for mentioning I.D. (you have been mislead, deceived and miss-educated by this film)

The irony of such a statement is amusing to say the least, that is in comparison to.......Darwinism !!!!! and your saying the whole of evolution is of no such disception, how very interesting when the scientific community are still scratching their heads and questioning their presumptions and vague specualtions regarding the origin of life.

Darwinism and his hypothesis are a laughing stock ..... and within the scientific community to boot.

...but let's keep it very quite and maybe the ID proponents will go away