Expelled

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by roli

Darwinism and his hypothesis are a laughing stock ..... and within the scientific community to boot.

You're mistaken.

Just because you aren't familiar with the evidence for evolution doesn't mean it's not there.

What do you want to know?

[Women_Of_Reason]

Roli:
Why is evolution so insulting for you guys anyways?

You don`t mind that we all share common atoms with cocaine and cyanide, but it`s the end of the world for you that we share a common ancestor with the cat that you find so cute.

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by roli

Darwinism and his hypothesis are a laughing stock ..... and within the scientific community to boot.

When I ventured into this thread, and read the original post, I was worried that you might not fully understand evolution. I was afraid that you might reveal a bias against it, and show that you were arguing from ignorance.

I see that my fears were, indeed, unfounded. You appear to be very well informed, to be thinking rationally, and to be presenting a well thought out, in depth defense of your position.

What a breath of fresh air your posts have been.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by roli

I have just watched this amazing eye opening video, which I have always had this from past articles and research, but this is sure to ruffle the feathers of some, as it did those who expelled the scientists.

My question and forgive me if this has already been discussed but it certainly begs the question " What is the big scare amongst the scientific community in well established universities, research centers, and other insitutions that house diverse experts in their field that cause them to shun those who even mention ID.

It makes me sit back and .... just a little!


...now of course the credibility of Ben Stien and those interviewed will be argued by someone on this forum, which would be a typical opening arguement ...but could we just take this whole documentry at face value and assume it's characters are real professionals and quite possiblly have lost their grants tenures ????/ or whatever.

What's your take on this????

You'd be making inaccurate assumptions.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by roli

The irony of such a statement is amusing to say the least, that is in comparison to.......Darwinism !!!!! and your saying the whole of evolution is of no such disception, how very interesting when the scientific community are still scratching their heads and questioning their presumptions and vague specualtions regarding the origin of life.

Darwinism and his hypothesis are a laughing stock ..... and within the scientific community to boot.

...but let's keep it very quite and maybe the ID proponents will go away

Really? Can you name say ten biologists who reject the Theory of Evolution?

And for the 1000th time roli, Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. If you don't want to embarass your position, learn something about it.

[roli]

Originally Posted by Women_Of_Reason

Intelligent Design in short:

ID is not a scientific theory. It is nothing more than an attempt to refute natural selection... and a failed one I might add.

Proving that A is wrong in no way implies that B is correct.

Which is what ID does:

Natural selection is not real therefore God did it.

Natural selection on it's own accord with out intelligent design is a failed one.

Name one thing you set your eyes on that man with his intelligent design has made that evolved on it's own ...how proposterous is that assumption..


That again is the irony of evolutionism, or those who defend it,they attempt so hard to silence ID proponents and declare them ignorant etc.

MAybe it's true what Paul said: in Corinthians

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where [is] the wise? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believeFor the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by roli

That again is the irony of evolutionism, or those who defend it,they attempt so hard to silence ID proponents and declare them ignorant etc.

Irony? You speak of irony, while asserting that natural selection fails, without intelligent design? Now THAT is truly ironic.



I can't speak to your complaint about being declared ignorant. I just can't.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by roli

Natural selection on it's own accord with out intelligent design is a failed one.

Name one thing you set your eyes on that man with his intelligent design has made that evolved on it's own ...how proposterous is that assumption..


That again is the irony of evolutionism, or those who defend it,they attempt so hard to silence ID proponents and declare them ignorant etc.

roli: I realize that neither thinking or expressing yourself are you strong points, but if I understand you correctly, you ask us to name something that people designed but that evolved on its own? Is that right? Can you see the problem(s) with that? Try really hard.