Expelled

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

No, Schools are to teach facts, If they want to teach evolution they should recognize that it is only a theory and not proven.

and if they want to teach theories, they should provide unbias arguments for all theories on the subject

Tell me you're not actually this obtuse. You have to be pulling our leg.

You do realize the spherical Earth and Sun centered solar system are theories, don't you?

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

Tell me you're not actually this obtuse. You have to be pulling our leg.

You do realize the spherical Earth theory is a theory, don't you?

ALL of science is actually "theory"

[madhatter85]

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you seem to think that intelligent design has to do with religion when it does not. It merely reconized that neo-darwinism cannot explain the actual beginning of life, It only attempts to explain how life changes.

[Women_Of_Reason]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

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you seem to think that intelligent design has to do with religion when it does not. It merely reconized that neo-darwinism cannot explain the actual beginning of life, It only attempts to explain how life changes.

Than why do proponents of ID want to introduce creationist textbooks in class if it's not religious.

[Women_Of_Reason]

Originally Posted by Father Heathen

Consider The Theory of Relativity or The Theory of Gravity, for example.

Actually, the theory of relativity is the theory of gravity

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

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you seem to think that intelligent design has to do with religion when it does not. It merely reconized that neo-darwinism cannot explain the actual beginning of life, It only attempts to explain how life changes.

Well, thank goodness you finally understand that about the theory. Please keep that in mind.

Now, ID is inherently religious. God is the subject of religion, and that's exactly what an intelligent designer is.

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

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you seem to think that intelligent design has to do with religion when it does not. It merely reconized that neo-darwinism cannot explain the actual beginning of life, It only attempts to explain how life changes.

And you imply here that ID does explain the origin of life. It does not. It merely asserts that there was an agent responsible.

"God did it" is neither a theory, nor an explanation, nor, for that matter, science.
Science is about mechanism. ID proposes no mechanism, only agency. It has no place in a science classroom.

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

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you seem to think that intelligent design has to do with religion when it does not. It merely reconized that neo-darwinism cannot explain the actual beginning of life, It only attempts to explain how life changes.

So, in an effort to legitimize your willful ignorance, you are now linking us to a site run by Bruce Chapman. Chapman is a social conservative that is running this website that is tied to the religious right.

From Wikipedia:
The Discovery Institute is a conservative public policy U.S.think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design and its Teach the Controversy campaign to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high schoolscience courses.[2][3][4][5][6] A federal court, along with the majority of scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, say the Institute has manufactured the controversy they want to teach by promoting a false perception that evolution is "a theory in crisis", through incorrectly claiming that it is the subject of wide controversy and debate within the scientific community.[7][8][9] In 2005, a federal court ruled that the Discovery Institute pursues "demonstrably religious, cultural, and legal missions",[10] and the institute's manifesto, the Wedge strategy, describes a religious goal: to "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions".[11][12]

If you wish to swaddle yourself in ignorance, that's not a problem. Not surprisingly, you seem to be unaware that citing a person that is equally delusional doesn't really provide credibility to your laughably hollow argument.

For what it's worth, I have to say that your statement that intelligent design has nothing to do with religion is a jewel. Of course, you'll have to pay attention to whom you cite as a reference from now on. Your use of Bruce Chapman wasn't very well thought out, but at this point, with no credibility left, it really isn't that big a problem for you - is it.

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

No, Schools are to teach facts, If they want to teach evolution they should recognize that it is only a theory and not proven.

and if they want to teach theories, they should provide unbias arguments for all theories on the subje