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Old 11-03-2008, 05:21 PM
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That is are as far out of touch with reality as anything I've seen or heard in my lifetime.

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And your reality is only in what you .....see!

What about the unseen and unknowns in your world.
What title do you place on them?
I call them "unknown." What do you all them?
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:33 PM
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What about the unseen and unknowns in your world. What title do you place on them?
Like anyone with a sense of curiousity, I see them as opportunities to learn - using the scientific method to find evidence.

I would contrast that with someone that, when confronted with an unknown, simply shuts down the search and declares it to be beyond understanding. You know - someone that relies on dogma to understand the natural world around them.
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And your reality is only in what you .....see!

What about the unseen and unknowns in your world.
What title do you place on them?
The unknown is by definition... unknown, there`s not much to say about it.

But I don`t know why you put the unseen in the same bag as the unknown... There are plenty of thing that we don`t see but we know exist:

Sound... Air... Odours... Germs, X-rays, radio-waves and so on.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:37 PM
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Unscientific.
So you are saying you don't function in that realm because there are no facts.

fantome, you operate in things everyday unseen and unknown and that have no scientific varifications.

Why is it so hard for people to admit they operate on some level of assumption / faith without emperical evidence to do so.
It's not an insult to the intelligence to admit it, but extremely difficult for some.
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Why is it so hard for people to admit they operate on some level of assumption / faith without emperical evidence to do so.
It's not an insult to the intelligence to admit it, but extremely difficult for some.
Why is it so difficult for you to admit that you have no idea of what you are talking about? It's not an insult to admit that you are ignorant of any given subject. Heck, we all have areas of ignorance.

The embarrasing part is that you steadfastly refuse to even examine the help you've been given, while continuing to insist that everyone else around you is wrong.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:31 AM
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So you are saying you don't function in that realm because there are no facts.

fantome, you operate in things everyday unseen and unknown and that have no scientific varifications.

Why is it so hard for people to admit they operate on some level of assumption / faith without emperical evidence to do so.
It's not an insult to the intelligence to admit it, but extremely difficult for some.
No, I am not saying that at all. I agree with what you are saying here.
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Because people have bastardised the original meaning of the word theory.
No, there's just a difference between a theory and a scientific theory.
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Why is it so hard for people to admit they operate on some level of assumption / faith without emperical evidence to do so.
It's not an insult to the intelligence to admit it, but extremely difficult for some.
It's not hard. That's why so many people do just that. However, that doesn't support your argument.
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Let me ask you some questions.

Do you believe that a scientific journal editor should be able to publish anything they choose without going through proper peer review?

Do you believe that a college professor with a steadily dropping publication output should get tenure anyway?

Do you believe that a part-time teacher who doesn't follow the curriculum for an Introduction to Biology class should have their contract renewed?

Do you believe that a university should host whatever a professor wants to post on it's servers?

Do you believe that a journalist has been blacklisted when they continue to write articles for a publication?

Do you believe that a physician who claims that evolution is irrelevant to medicine should not have their arguments challenged?
It's so ironic that anytime something like this surfaces that poses a threat to evolutionists ,excuses,resonings,, false accusations, the source is attacked, the papers are questioned and everything is turned back at the source of the exposure as them being the real problem..and maybe so and yet ..maybe not.


Regradless of the volitity ,which I believe there is some truth in everything,It's still so fun to watch the evolutionists scurry when their rocks are overturned!!!!
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