Evolution is natural

[Runewolf1973]

I don't mean to sound disrespectful of ANY of you're beliefs. I am sorry if I came across as such. Fact is, I am not well educated in the matters of religion or philosophy, so I might be wrong on some regards. I know I am. But you have to admit, for someone with such a simplistic and non-scientific world view, at the very least, I make you guys think. All that I know on the matter comes from within. It is what I "feel". Someone who I think was very wise once told me...."we are all smart and stupid at the same time". Perhaps he was right.

[zenzero]

Friend Runewolf1973,

"we are all smart and stupid at the same time".

The statement is right however it requires some qualification.
i.e. what one perceives as being smart or stupid may not perceived as true by another person.
The reason is simple. Each one perceives through the mind and it is that very mind which needs to be stilled to be enlightened.
Love & rgds

[Runewolf1973]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

At issue is whether one fabricates theology as filler. "I don't know" may be less than satisfying, but at least it's honest.

To some extent, I think theories are a filler to go in where scientists haven't been able to explain. My theories are energy-based (obviously), so when I try to explain something science has not been able to identify, I explain it as such.... Energy is a scientific fact, it exists on many levels and it's presence affects everything. That which scientists haven't been able to explain doesn't mean that it's necessarily non-scientific, it just has not been identified as scientific fact yet. Science may one day yet prove the existence of spirits or ghosts. To me they are merely other forms of energy, so it makes perfect scientific sense to me that they CAN exist. The diversity of "energy" to me explains what "theories" and "religion" explains to others. By that's just my opinion.

[Runewolf1973]

You are absolutely right on that zenzero. I have to admit though, I am probably more "stupid" than anyone.

[zenzero]

Friend Runewolf1973,

You are absolutely right on that zenzero. I have to admit though, I am probably more "stupid" than anyone.

You missed my point.
It is a genberal observation on the statement.
Find nothing stupid about making mistakes unconsciously provided we can raise the consciousness in that direction too after knowing about it.
Love & rgds

[gnostic]

I thought spirits were neither natural or supernatural?

I thought they were artificial, and they are dependent on how you distill and brew grains or fruits?

No?

[Runewolf1973]

Sorry if this is a little off topic. Was wondering, does anyone here believe that our thoughts are a form of energy? Consider this....If thought is a form of energy, then anything ever thought of or conceived must also be a form of energy as well and exist as such. In a sense, all things whether imagined or created in real life would actually "exist". Maybe some things such as God, defys the laws of nature and could not possibly exist in material form, but that thought-energy is still there and exists. Evolution, because it follows the laws of nature, can exist on a more physical dimension. This is why I believe our thoughts can effect someone who is half a world away from us. If the thought is there, then the energy of if must also be there. In a sense, if this were true, could we not say then that EVERYTHING exists at one level or another? From Gods, to theories, to scientific fact, it all exists in one or another form of reality. To say there was no such thing as God, would be like saying there is no such thing as energy. Maybe there really are two different planes of "existence". Maybe thats why things in nature are so complex they almost seem "thought out". An elephant could not exist in a world which was governed by by the laws of natural physics if it had feet the size of a horse! I think what it all boils down to, is that I myself am going completely insane.

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Runewolf1973

Sorry if this is a little off topic. Was wondering, does anyone here believe that our thoughts are a form of energy?

I'm more inclined toward "energy" being a form of thought.

[Runewolf1973]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

I'm more inclined toward "energy" being a form of thought.

Hmmmm....something else to think about. Thanks. Could it possibly work both ways? What would have created that "thought"? Forgive me if any of these silly ponderings of mine are annnoying anyone. Sorry.

[Runewolf1973]

I think the reason why some beliefs fade out and others remain very much powerful is in the amount of energy people direct towards them. If we think about something, but just forget about it, after a while, I think that energy weakens and changes into a less powerful form. People just stop believing it and the belief becomes nothing more than fleeting moment of stirred energy. Kind of like throwing a rock into a pond. It forms rings where the rock was thrown, but after a while the rings just dissipate. Does that make any sense at all? To give power to anything, we must continually feed it with more energy. Come to think of it, the whole throwing a rock into the pond analogy kind of summarizes everything in nature itself. Like a piece of steel if left to rust, returns to the earth. Like the universe itself, probably stretched so far it fades into blackness. Maybe one day in the far distant future, all things, thoughts, and places will revert back to nothing but pure energy, only to do it all over again. The reincarnation of the universe.

Back to the topic of evolution, it would seem that the universe itself evolves from one thing, to another, and then back again. Let it be said, evolution is more than just a barrel of monkeys.