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Old 10-21-2008, 09:49 AM
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Supernatural is the opposite of Natural, meaning, not natural. in otherwords "non existance"

Spirit is the hebrew word "Rauch" that means Wind/air. one of the 4 elements.
And "breath." "Spirit" is speaking of words. It is the creation of things (including self-identity/"I am"/ego eimi ) by assigning attributes to create organized forms in language.

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The reason humans, animals, plants are spirtial is because they need spirits/air/oxygen to live.
The reason they are all spiritual is because they live, move and have their being in language and the forms constructed in the process of reasoned order.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:52 AM
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Then it's both acquired and innate.
What do you think of the argument that language and grammar are innate, not acquired. That people are generators not learners of language?
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:57 AM
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The reason they are all spiritual is because they live, move and have their being in language and the forms constructed in the process of reasoned order.
Although Spirit means Air, it can also mean movement.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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Although Spirit means Air, it can also mean movement.
Movement is order.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:04 AM
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What do you think of the argument that language and grammar are innate, not acquired. That people are generators not learners of language?
I think it grossly oversimplifies how language works and what it does. Though I appreciate how that can be comforting.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:07 AM
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Order of Life, or the Circle of Life.
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Order of Life, or the Circle of Life.
Sure. If that symbolism works for you.
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Sure. If that symbolism works for you.
Well the cycle composites of two things "Life and Earth"

Life comes from the Earth, Life dies and becomes the Earth

Earth-Life-Earth-Life
Fire(sun) and Water are catalysts that speeds and starts the cycle
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BTW, I don't think Chomsky even argues that language is completely innate. He argues that there is an innate system for the acquisition of language, but that it operates by interacting with the linguistic structures of the child's culture. It is a biological operating system waiting for some useful programs to be loaded into it, if that helps.
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