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Old 09-15-2008, 07:27 AM
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No, it does not, but feel free to believe so if you find it comforting.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:28 PM
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And a human can partially achieve the result that an omniprescent and omnipotent god did? I mean, single-celled life was also created by God.
I believe the correct answer to that is for the human to first create their own material to start with.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:12 PM
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I believe the correct answer to that is for the human to first create their own material to start with.

Do we have to build a gravitational field from scratch in order to show that we understand gravity, and what natural laws gravity is subjected to? Do we need to build a sun from scratch in order to show we understand how the sun works and what natural laws the sun is subjected to? Do we need to build a human heart from scratch to show we understand how a human heart works and what natural laws a human heart is subjected to?

The answer to all of that is a resounding no

So why do we need to build a living organism from scratch in order to show how it works and what natural laws all living things are subjected to???

Funny how you don't set the bar so high to prove that your imaginary friend really exists?!?! ?! ?! ?! ?!
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:17 PM
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Do we have to build a gravitational field from scratch in order to show that we understand gravity, and what natural laws gravity is subjected to? Do we need to build a sun from scratch in order to show we understand how the sun works and what natural laws the sun is subjected to? Do we need to build a human heart from scratch to show we understand how a human heart works and what natural laws a human heart is subjected to?

The answer to all of that is a resounding no

So why do we need to build a living organism from scratch in order to show how it works and what natural laws all living things are subjected to???

Funny how you don't set the bar so high to prove that your imaginary friend really exists?!?! ?! ?! ?! ?!
We know gravity exists, we cant see it, we know energy exists, we cant see it, some of us know god exists, and we can see him in all of the above.
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We know gravity exists, we cant see it, we know energy exists, we cant see it, some of us know god exists, and we can see him in all of the above.
Perhaps the some of you is not good enough. And until the some of you have convincing evidence, tangible evidence that can be verified objectively, then you are grasping at straws. But your post doesn't address the OP, and neither raising the bar.
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We know gravity exists, we cant see it, we know energy exists, we cant see it, some of us know god exists, and we can see him in all of the above.
God can be and often is projected everywhere. It's looking more and more as if he's really on the lens.
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We know gravity exists, we cant see it, we know energy exists, we cant see it, some of us know god exists, and we can see him in all of the above.
But everyone can see the effects that gravity and energy have without question, and these effects are answered quite well with the theory of gravity and energy.
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Do we have to build a gravitational field from scratch in order to show that we understand gravity, and what natural laws gravity is subjected to?
Just duplicating what already exists from material that already exists is not the same as building something new from nothing.
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But everyone can see the effects that gravity and energy have without question, and these effects are answered quite well with the theory of gravity and energy.
And you can see the effects of God in a persons life.
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