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Old 08-22-2008, 11:54 AM
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In that it seems, that from many periods in time, new additions and progressions to the belief systems, share that the words of religious teachings evolved over time.

How it is that if religious books are the words ‘by God’ that in the evolution of the very beliefs continue to evolve over time?

If the words found in the literature of religious orders are the ‘creation’ of God, then why the changes over time?

Same with debating the evolution of species; if man was ‘created’ in God’s image, then why was the serpent capable of deceiving a God?

Then if life was created and just planted on this earth by God, then why are there dinosaur bones in the soil?

SO the idea of the thread is, if we as people can see evolution in just about every step we take in nature and knowledge; then why is evolution so firmly denied as a pattern of progression, quite similar to the ‘golden ratio’ shared in the structures of living things?

Perhaps, we should all go back to honoring Zeus on a thrown and forget the so called prophets who contributed to the evolution of knowledge and be faithful to the original Gods of mankind?
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:03 PM
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The snake didnt trick eve, re-read the beginning of the bible the snake says the same thing gods says so , if the snake tricked them so did god.God says "now they are one of us" and the snake said they would be like god.. so read it i wanna know what you think bout that one.
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Perhaps, we should all go back to honoring Zeus on a thrown and forget the so called prophets who contributed to the evolution of knowledge and be faithful to the original Gods of mankind?
I second the motion.

Friday is named for the goddess Freya, and Saturday after Saturn. Let's celebrate and be faithful by enjoying the gifts of Freya every weekday, and then kicking off the weekend with a Saturnalia!
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Perhaps, we should all go back to honoring Zeus on a thrown and forget the so called prophets who contributed to the evolution of knowledge and be faithful to the original Gods of mankind?
Original? Zeus isn't one of the original gods. Ask any shaman-king.
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In that it seems, that from many periods in time, new additions and progressions to the belief systems, share that the words of religious teachings evolved over time.

How it is that if religious books are the words ‘by God’ that in the evolution of the very beliefs continue to evolve over time?

If the words found in the literature of religious orders are the ‘creation’ of God, then why the changes over time?

Same with debating the evolution of species; if man was ‘created’ in God’s image, then why was the serpent capable of deceiving a God?

Then if life was created and just planted on this earth by God, then why are there dinosaur bones in the soil?

SO the idea of the thread is, if we as people can see evolution in just about every step we take in nature and knowledge; then why is evolution so firmly denied as a pattern of progression, quite similar to the ‘golden ratio’ shared in the structures of living things?

Perhaps, we should all go back to honoring Zeus on a thrown and forget the so called prophets who contributed to the evolution of knowledge and be faithful to the original Gods of mankind?
More than anything else, your post is incoherent. Even once we filter out the babble, we're left with ...
"..., if we as people can see evolution ... then why is evolution so firmly denied ...?"
And the pathetically obvious answer is: "Because those who reject evolution don't agree that it's obvious."

It's a silly thread. Let it die ...
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:53 AM
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Surely evolution is there but Relgion is not a theory for sure. It is a Way of life which too eveolves.
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Bishadi: I have no idea what you meant by this post. Maybe you should try again.
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In that it seems, that from many periods in time, new additions and progressions to the belief systems, share that the words of religious teachings evolved over time.

How it is that if religious books are the words ‘by God’ that in the evolution of the very beliefs continue to evolve over time?

If the words found in the literature of religious orders are the ‘creation’ of God, then why the changes over time?
Your insight is good. May I be allowed to further it?

It is true that religion, like man, has evolved. It is so since man, himself, has evolved over time so religion had to evolve with him. As new evils arose, so, those new evils had to be combated with new Divine guidance. I must also claim that Islam is the pinnacle of this evolution. Let me elaborate the preceding sentences with an example.

At the time of the Pharoah the evil present in the Jews was cowardice. They did not stand up to him and they did not dare fight him. For this reason Moses' revealed religion was a fiery religion (in that God spoke to him through the fire). His religion did not give much of forgiveness but a great emphasis was placed on "Tooth for tooth and eye for eye". And that was the requirement of the time. The Jews needed to learn to stand up for themselves and fight.

Yet as time progressed a new evil began spreading among Jews. That evil was hard-heartedness. They took the teaching to its extreme and "A tooth for a thousand teeth" began to be the order of the day. To counter this 1400 years later God sent Jesus Christ with a religion of the "dove". He taught them to "turn the other cheek". To forgive and to submit. His teachings were, one must admit, correct for the time. It was the medicine the Jews needed. But it can not be heralded as a perfect teaching. Not only is it inapplicable it is wrong to forgive a bully. That is, again, cowardice.

A study into other religious lineages (Hinduism to Buddhism) for example would reveal a similar trend.

When the Quran was revealed man had evolved enough to have the complete religion revealed. Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw angel Gabriel not as a fire or as a dove but as a human when the Quran was first revealed to him. This signified the completeness of the religion of Islam.

Following on from the example I present and challenge anyone (as I have done so countless times on this forum) to evolve the following Quranic teaching:
A tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye but it is better to forgive granted forgiveness leads to redemption.

I hope this was helpful.
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