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Old 12-23-2004, 08:38 PM
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I will use science as the basis for evidence. Science is based on direct observation and testing so everthing here will be based on those 2 premises.

A) Although we cannot percieve an Intelligent Designer firsthand we can however look at ourselves and say that we are intelligent, creative, and we design using the natural environment to make our designs from. logically if we exist and we have these powers then it is not beyond reason to assume the existance of an I.D. that may be beyond our ability to percieve just as we are beyond the perception of an ameoba.

We will now see if there is any secondhand evidence. Evidence of an I.D. would be something that we could not infer as a result of natural occurance, so what can we observe that would not be the result of purely natural happenings?
I seem to find that the premises you use somehow always miss the mark.

"Although we cannot percieve an Intelligent Designer firsthand" does not fit "Science is based on direct observation and testing"

Quod erat demonstradum

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Old 12-24-2004, 12:28 AM
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KBC have you heard about the new creatures found from the pre-cabrian that fill in the 'cambrian explostion'?
There are new fossils of early worms, jellyfish and other oddities.
check out some examples here: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vendian/critters.html
many of the orders that were part of the explostion have progenitors in the preCambrian.
As for trilbites thier ancestors had less complex eyes and bodies. Infact one way of telling different types of trilobites apart is thier eye design. Different groups had different designs, they were trying different things out. Some had round eyes, some concave, some up on stalks and others that didn't have any eyes at all.
http://www.trilobites.info/eyes.htm
not surprizingly the ancestors of triobites are pre-cambrain (and thus before the cambrian explosion) animals. They did not appear suddenly or unexplainabley.
http://www.trilobites.info/origins.htm
Anyway I hope this helps you to better understand these amazing animals who for so long were a part of our oceans.

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