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Old 07-16-2008, 11:51 AM
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Default Do atheists think that evolution theory proves that there is no God?

That's a good question many might wish to discuss.

Why would any theist think that evolution is a tool to discount the idea of God?

Why would not believing in a God as the religions keep trying to describe; have anything to do with evolution?

We all know each person who we ever knew was born from a women, correct? (fell on our heads)

That no man was actually 'created' from dust and "poof" they became a man and then "poof" a rib was ribbed out and then a women was born?

Are there any here who actually believe in creation as magic from God (Allah/Krsna/Osirus/Zeus) or what ever book ye be readin?
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Do atheist think that evolution theory proves that there is no God?
No, most atheists don't believe that the theory of evolution proves that there is no God.
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No, but Quantum Cosmology certainly does.
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No, but Quantum Cosmology certainly does.
Can you summarize, put it in layman's terms?
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Can you summarize, put it in layman's terms?
As Stephen Hawking put it in "A Brief History of Time", in Quantum Cosmology, "there would be no singularities at which the laws of science broke down and no edge of space-time at which one would have to appeal to God or some new law to set the boundary conditions for space-time . . . The universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"
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Well, from your description, I have to disagree that it disproves God. It squeezes the God of the gaps into yet a smaller space, but we all know that's poor theology anyway.

I don't see why an eternal Creator deity couldn't Create an eternal universe.

Also, doesn't this contradict the well-established Big Bang theory?
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The idea that the TOE has anything to say about God or religion exists only in the mind of the religious Right. The connection never occurred to atheists., or biologists, for that matter.
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The idea that the TOE has anything to say about God or religion exists only in the mind of the religious Right. The connection never occurred to atheists., or biologists, for that matter.
The controversy is a manufactured one; a propaganda tool.
I don't know. We have several atheists on this board who have repeatedly asserted that ToE disproves God. Not that I've ever gotten any of them to explain how....
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That's a good question many might wish to discuss.

Why would any theist think that evolution is a tool to discount the idea of God?

Why would not believing in a God as the religions keep trying to describe; have anything to do with evolution?

We all know each person who we ever knew was born from a women, correct? (fell on our heads)

That no man was actually 'created' from dust and "poof" they became a man and then "poof" a rib was ribbed out and then a women was born?

Are there any here who actually believe in creation as magic from God (Allah/Krsna/Osirus/Zeus) or what ever book ye be readin?
It all boils down to who you put your faith in, man's ideas or God.
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