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Old 07-16-2008, 08:07 PM
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The idea that the TOE has anything to say about God or religion exists only in the mind of the religious Right. The connection never occurred to atheists., or biologists, for that matter.
The controversy is a manufactured one; a propaganda tool.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:11 PM
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While the theory of evolution does not disprove god, it is much more useful for humans, in the way of curing diseases and making vaccines, than believing that god made all the species.

I have made an argument for two fatal flaws in creationism, if anyone would care to take a look. It doesn't disprove god. But it does point out two flaws in creationism. Might inform the debate over here as well.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:03 AM
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No, but Quantum Cosmology certainly does.
Nonsense.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:33 AM
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As Stephen Hawking put it in "A Brief History of Time", in Quantum Cosmology, "there would be no singularities at which the laws of science broke down and no edge of space-time at which one would have to appeal to God or some new law to set the boundary conditions for space-time . . . The universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"
It seems to me Hawking is merely pointing out that god is an unnecessary hypothesis in science, rather than attempting to disprove the existence of god.
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While the theory of evolution does not disprove god, it is much more useful for humans, in the way of curing diseases and making vaccines, than believing that god made all the species.
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As Stephen Hawking put it in "A Brief History of Time", in Quantum Cosmology, "there would be no singularities at which the laws of science broke down and no edge of space-time at which one would have to appeal to God or some new law to set the boundary conditions for space-time . . . The universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"
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