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Old 07-25-2008, 11:24 AM
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No, we want you to admit that there is no such proof, since we all know it. But you keep insisting you CAN prove it, you just don't want to.
He pretentiously claims proof he cannot provide and then mocks others for believing in fantasy. Sounds like a bad case of projection ...
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:19 PM
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And are you and others honestly wanting me to prove a negative, that a god does not exist? That's the whole point here.
No, of course not. I would not ask you to try to prove a negative. In this case this is just something that cannot be disproved. That is all I am saying.

You are the one that claimed that it could be disproved, not I.

Are you now agreeing with me that the concept of “God” is unfalsifiable? Or do you still maintain that you can prove “God” doesn’t exist?
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:14 PM
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No, of course not. I would not ask you to try to prove a negative. In this case this is just something that cannot be disproved. That is all I am saying.

You are the one that claimed that it could be disproved, not I.

Are you now agreeing with me that the concept of “God” is unfalsifiable? Or do you still maintain that you can prove “God” doesn’t exist?
Which concept of god, there probably are a number of god concepts that are falsifiable. It's hard to get a coherent definition of "god" around here.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:16 PM
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Which concept of god, there probably are a number of god concepts that are falsifiable. It's hard to get a coherent definition of "god" around here.
Let's go with the supernatural, omnimax Creator.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:46 PM
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Which concept of god, there probably are a number of god concepts that are falsifiable. It's hard to get a coherent definition of "god" around here.
It’s not just around here.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:12 PM
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No, we want you to admit that there is no such proof, since we all know it. But you keep insisting you CAN prove it, you just don't want to.
It is no more neccesary to disprove god then it is to disprove unicorns and leprechauns.

Believe what you want... But it is indeed fantasy unless you can prove otherwise. Its funny... the theist argument means the characters of every fictional book I have read are in fact real until someone disproves them.

No one ever claimed the bible to be non fiction and god as a concept is an intellectual crutch. It amuses me that people think their claim of god has equal credence to a rejection of such an idea.

People enjoy rejecting science that denies any proof of their god but embrace any part of it that seemingly justifies their belief. They are transparent as a fish tank.

Storm... a theist is one who believes in the existence of a god or gods... your claim to be a non theist while still believing in god is just silly. What should one make of such? That you can believe in god and not be a theist. And feel free to argue with me but until the english language changes your just trying to be clever.

Here I will simplify...

Do you believe in a god or gods? If you answered yes your a theist, if you answered no your an atheist and if your not sure your an agnostic.

However you are free to pick any title you desire and justify it in any way you wish. I just wanted to point out my opinion.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:18 PM
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It is no more neccesary to disprove god then it is to disprove unicorns and leprechauns.
No, but if you claim to be able to, I have every right to ask you to back it up.

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Storm... a theist is one who believes in the existence of a god or gods... your claim to be a non theist while still believing in god is just silly. What should one make of such? That you can believe in god and not be a theist. And feel free to argue with me but until the english language changes your just trying to be clever.
I suggest you review the Theism DIR. A theist proper is one who believes that God is a supernatural deity, usually the Creator. I believe no such thing, therefore I am not a theist. It's about precision.
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