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Old 05-05-2008, 12:21 AM
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It seems most European Christians don't have a problem reconciling their faith with evolution, and accept evolution while believing in Christ. Yet, many Americans seem unable to do the same. Why is that?
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:50 AM
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I have no problem w/ evolution and I'm not European. The irony.
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they just ignore it!
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It seems most European Christians don't have a problem reconciling their faith with evolution, and accept evolution while believing in Christ. Yet, many Americans seem unable to do the same. Why is that?
A combination of fundamentalism and our VIctorian heritage - we have a society that is superficially "open" on the outside but very prudish on the inside.
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I can't answer for the rest of Europe and I'm not even sure how accurate that statement is for some parts of Europe but I will answer for the UK. Here, it is because religion, science and politics are seen at most as complementary entities that are otherwise entirely distinct. Both religion and politics try to avoid making statements that are incongruent with scientific discovery because those things are seen as in the domain of science.

Consequently, religion restricts itself to explaining to followers the ethical and metaphysical impacts of scientific discovery. A religious leader might say, for example, that cloning is morally wrong but they wouldn't say that it was impossible. Similarly, a religious leader will explain to their congregation how evolution affects theology without denouncing it and that's if it gets mentioned at all.
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It seems most European Christians don't have a problem reconciling their faith with evolution, and accept evolution while believing in Christ. Yet, many Americans seem unable to do the same. Why is that?
I'm pretty sure young earth creationism is associated with a particular kind of Christianity which is very uncommon outside the US. I know this will be offensive, but I'll say it anyway - Europeans are generally very literate, and as such I suspect a lot of European Christians actually read the bible, and quite possibly other books about the history of the bible.

It's hard for me to imagine anyone with a lot of familiarity with the Bible and its history coming to the conclusion that God wrote it and therefore everything in it is literally true. Also, to come up with young earth creationism you need to borrow the ideas of an Irish Monk who came up with the "6000" years bollox by counting the life-spans in the Old Testament. This notion is not in the Bible. The only way you could assert the bible says the earth is that young is by not reading it, or by insisting the Biblical creation myth is literally true. Non-evangelical Christians I've met take it to be symbolic of some incomprehensible metaphysical creation process. (Ie. "Perhaps one of God's day's is like a billion of our years"... and why wouldn't it be?)

I also think the battle over evolution was already fought and won here back in Darwin's day. His work was a Hot Topic in his day, but nobody can really argue for something so obviously wrong for over a hundred years, especially when faced with increasing mounds of supporting empirical evidence.
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...the ideas of an Irish Monk who came up with the "6000" years bollox by counting the life-spans in the Old Testament.
That was pretty scientific in it's time ..
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That was pretty scientific in it's time ..
Or maybe autistic? Obsessive-compulsive? heh. I understand those monks had a lot of time on their hands.
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Because, America is a young-un with a lot to learn in general. For being the "Land of the Free", we certainly aren't that free and have some pretty big hang-ups. Not just about religion/evolution either. About sex, the naked human body, and many other things. For a country founded on escaping religious persecution we certainly have developed ourselves into a country famous for holding certain religious ideas above and beyond normal society and common sense.
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