How did humans come to be (Jesus Christ, evolution, Christ)

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by OutOfTime

they dont mean god created you directly. they mean god created the first humans who reproduced etc and that he made the scientific mechanisms to create you. when they say mother nature....they mean god because mother nature is god's scientific invention.

but some ppl think mother nature's different from god...more and more ppl fall into gaia/earth worship by the day now, maybe it's brainwashing...the way they teach it in school is sad but whateever, i'm happy not knowing how we came to be exactly, knowing god made us is good enough for me.

Who says god created Adam and Eve? If the bible was written by man and man is flawwed what does that say about the bible and god? And if that same book was written by a man who wasn't trustworthy... (Greydon Square) hehe He rocks.

Your going to tell me that Genesis says God Created man and therefore it happened. You want me to deny the evolutionary bridging species found thus far. (Lung fish was mentioned... but if you do some research .... nah.... just watch discovery channel... they recently had an hour special on the evolution of the human.)

But we can back up to Genesis...

Gen 1:31 God is satisfied with his works
Gen 6:6 God is dissatisfied with his works.

Hmmm.... The inspired word contridicts itself already.

But more to the point why did god create light before he created anything that can emit light? Did he create the photon? He didn't get around to creating the sun for quite some time and he calls the moon the lesser light... Its just a rock. No lesser light there. Is a greater light a giant fireball that produces light and lesser light is a rock?

A divinely inspired work would have been more comprehensive and much easier to understand. Contridictions would be void.

Curious though... if god created us then he did so with a lot of evidence towards a species that evolved to that point. Coccyx, Useless organs or functional organs with no connection to the brain, male nipples and glands that if stimulated can even cause a male to produce milk, Female Vas Deferens etc etc.

Why would a creator create a species that is essentially imperfect. We are a marvel to behold and at the top of our food chain but by no means does that make us perfect or even that much different then other animals. Carbon based life forms. Evolution. The whole adam and eve, serpent and tree of knowledge story kinda just sets the stage... its a story... nothing more.

Of course some people want to beleive the ramblings of some ancient story with no verifiable proof. Explanation? The Asch Conformity Experiment.

[Tau]

Its very simple, human evolution took a giant leap when man became capable of language, Homo sapien sapien should be renamed Homo sapien communicus, that is what distiguished modern humans from most of the other archaic hominids, the ability to share ideas (birth of science and religion) and among other things use language to coordinate complex activities from battle to hunting..language is the key.

Keep talking to each other...

[crystalonyx]

Originally Posted by OutOfTime

they dont mean god created you directly. they mean god created the first humans who reproduced etc and that he made the scientific mechanisms to create you. when they say mother nature....they mean god because mother nature is god's scientific invention.

but some ppl think mother nature's different from god...more and more ppl fall into gaia/earth worship by the day now, maybe it's brainwashing...the way they teach it in school is sad but whateever, i'm happy not knowing how we came to be exactly, knowing god made us is good enough for me.

Sorry, There were no "First humans", and is no creator god. Humans evolved from an ancestral line of hominids.

[painted wolf]

H. neanderthalensis had religious thinking and quite likely language. (same hyoid structure and face it you can't have an advanced material culture without being able to pass on information.)

Humans came from a long and very wonderful line of ancestral species. Where we are headed is anyones guess.

wa:do

[Kungfuzed]

A daddy monkey gave his banana to the mommy monkey and out came a little baby human.

[OutOfTime]

that's the difference b/t me and you Balance. i don't mind believing blindly what three seperate religions say about the origins of man...those scientific theories were made by man too. btw i did take an evolutionary biology course so i understand the theories and evolution does happen but with humans, i think it's different. you can falsify data and certain groups do have reasons for promoting the evolution theory instead of the God one.

i'd agree with you, religious books have been changed and it is very hard to tell what's write. but believing in one true god is enough for me; it's an insurance marker. let's say there is a god...then if you were born into a god believing religon and chose to convret to atheism...you'd be screwed.

so in the end, it comes down to do you wanna take the chance of not believing? better safe than sorry.

btw does anyone have a statistic on ppl converting to atheism or a newer religion like scientology or alienology in the US per year or something? just interested.

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by OutOfTime

i'd agree with you, religious books have been changed and it is very hard to tell what's write. but believing in one true god is enough for me; it's an insurance marker. let's say there is a god...then if you were born into a god believing religon and chose to convret to atheism...you'd be screwed.

so in the end, it comes down to do you wanna take the chance of not believing? better safe than sorry.

Pascal's wager. Its used for a lot of things but mainly these days for justifying a belief in god. But it works on anything. What if the true god is Zeus... Are you following the teachings and doctrines of Zeus? Ra? Krishna? Odin? Allah? Thor? Many times the tenets of each religion would prevent you from following them all simultaneously. God is a jealous god. (Which is odd... if hes the only god what is he jealous of?)

Also I would have to believe god would see through people who worship god to just be safe. If he knows when your naughty and nice and can hear every prayer whether uttered silently or aloud my guess is he could tell if someone truly believed in him or if they just believed to be safe.

[logician]

Originally Posted by OutOfTime

so in the end, it comes down to do you wanna take the chance of not believing? better safe than sorry.

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Except believing in myths can definitely have a lot of harmful side effects. A supposed god could also see thru your "I just believe cause I want to get to heaven" motive.

[3.14]

humans came to be because some realy smart aliens wanted to know the ultimed qeustion wich answer was 42 so they had a planeet build to find the qeustion, a planeet called earth