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Old 04-09-2008, 01:50 PM
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Default How does found dinosaur tissue effect evolution and creationism?

I'm talking about the tissue found in the femur bone of a T-rex that still has some of it's elasticity and pigmentation.
I haven't given it much thought, really. I think it's pretty cool. But apparently it has caused quite a stir among some creationists hoping to disprove evolution.

So what does this mean for evolution and creationism?

It seems to me that the only thing this brings into question is how things are fossilized or preserved.
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It means nothing. Both theories are beyond falsification.
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It means nothing. Both theories are beyond falsification.
How do you mean?
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it wasn't tissue per say... it was some collagen protiens and a few cells that still had their shape. The whole thing was treated heavily with acid to remove the rock matrix and thus returned some of the flexibility to the structure.

The most important part of the find is that it shows the three dimensional structure and its strong ties to birds. Its more evidence that birds are just modern dinosaurs.

Regardless it doesn't do any harm to evolution. Evolution is a process that is, has been and will be continued to be observed.

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Fossil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia still true
only problem is creationist have no facts so they try to twist facts to suit theorys
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How do you mean?
It's not possible to disprove evolution. There's no experiment or observation (or set of such) that could show that evolution is false. The situation is similar for creationism. What evidence can you provide to show that evolution is indeed absolutely false? As soon as you present such evidence, creationism finds a way around it. The same is true for evolution. Round and round we go.....
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Sure you could, but it would take some spectacular evidence.

Find an animal that isn't somehow related to anything else on Earth. Something that doesn't have DNA markers that place it in the phylogeny of living things. (Tree of life)

Do that and you have a serious piece of evidence against evolution.

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It means nothing. Both theories are beyond falsification.
That is false.
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It's not possible to disprove evolution. There's no experiment or observation (or set of such) that could show that evolution is false. The situation is similar for creationism. What evidence can you provide to show that evolution is indeed absolutely false? As soon as you present such evidence, creationism finds a way around it. The same is true for evolution. Round and round we go.....
It would actually be very easy to disprove evolution, if it just wasn't such a good theory.

Disproving the theory of evolution
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I think obviously it doesn't disprove evolution. In fact, it seems to be more evidence for evolution.
But does it mean that the fossil can't be 70 million years old, because something that old must fully fossilize?
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