Do you see God in Nature? (experience, blessing, faith, divine) - Page 4

Storm · #31 03-18-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Autodidact

Right. If God is nature, then why not just call it nature, why do you need the word "God?" To say that nature is God is the same thing as saying that God does not exist.

I know this wasn't directed at me, but.... I believe that nature as we know it is a living, sapient organism. A being which encompasses the cosmos. If you have a better word for that than God, I'd like to hear it.

Autodidact · #32 03-19-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm

I know this wasn't directed at me, but.... I believe that nature as we know it is a living, sapient organism. A being which encompasses the cosmos. If you have a better word for that than God, I'd like to hear it.

Yes, this was pretty much my view around 6 years ago. I don't think this fits the standard definition of God, though. I think when most people say, "God," they're referring to an immaterial, or purely spiritual being, that cannot be perceived with any sense. I don't have a problem with your view, I just think it doesn't clarify to call it "God." And while you may believe that the universe is a sapient organism, and for all we know it might be, and we may be but an electron in an atom in a cell in Its body, (1) there would be no way to know this (2) What difference would it make to your life?

Storm · #33 03-19-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Autodidact

Yes, this was pretty much my view around 6 years ago. I don't think this fits the standard definition of God, though. I think when most people say, "God," they're referring to an immaterial, or purely spiritual being, that cannot be perceived with any sense. I don't have a problem with your view, I just think it doesn't clarify to call it "God."

Yeah, I have some issues with God myself. I use it because there's no better word that people will recognize, though I do have my own terminology.

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And while you may believe that the universe is a sapient organism, and for all we know it might be, and we may be but an electron in an atom in a cell in Its body, (1) there would be no way to know this

There's no way to confirm it. I believe it was revealed to me (unintentionally) via theophany.

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(2) What difference would it make to your life?

The only difference is that since my theophany, I am compelled to understand it, work at a puzzle I have no hope of solving. I don't believe in the efficacy of prayer, or that God cares what or even whether we believe regarding it, if that's what you're asking. My passion is for its own sake, and I don't think it's required of anyone. I am simply compelled.

logician · #34 03-19-2008, 03:28 PM

Again, one must define your god concept explicitly, not implicitly thru "nature" or the "universe", otherwise, the term "god" has no real meaning.

Storm · #35 03-19-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by logician

Again, one must define your god concept explicitly, not implicitly thru "nature" or the "universe", otherwise, the term "god" has no real meaning.

I have done so, I just dislike repeating myself. If you have questions about my beliefs, click on the link in my signature.

Seyorni · #36 03-19-2008, 08:58 PM

I see God as Nature.

gnostic · #37 03-19-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tomspug

When you look at the natural world around you (assuming you live somewhere where the natural world is visible ;-) ) do you see God?

The simple answer is "No".

And if you want to ask me if he was responsible for the creation of our natural world, then I would answer "NO!!!"

Oops!

, I didn't mean to shout.

UltraViolet · #38 03-19-2008, 11:13 PM

Much like Storm,
"God" for me is the Living Sentient UniVerse.

Often I don't use the term God though,
because people so tend to see God=Christian God.

I see the UniVerse around me at all times.
The communicative/interactive sentience of the UniVerse
arises here... and there...
in the symbolisms and syncronicities of everything and anything.

The Living Universe (God)
has spoken to me in keys, forests, windows, colors, water, pool floaty toys,
bathrooms, open and closed gates, numbers, string, leaves, holidays, my van and yes...
of course (literal) signs. (to name only a few),
both in the events, circumstances and syncronicities ("coincidences") of my waking life...
and the insights and symbolisms of my dream states (and inner visions).

Every single thing in all of creation (both god/man)
has the potential to speak of many greater and deeper things.

Life is a Language.