What Have Darwinists Said That's True? (Abiogenesis, evolution, genesis, atheist)

[Hela cells/lab pandemic]

Crystalonyx :

Evolution is just as "hard" a science as physics or chenistry, with as much evidence backing its theories as the aforementioned. To place evolution in some kind of scientific limbo is absurd

Evolution/ the dynamic/ ever changing nature of the entire cosmos IS on solid ( neigh irrefutable ) ground....BUT ...Darwinism/ Darwinian evolution is as full of holes as Swiss Cheese + it stinks to high heaven !

[ChristineES]

I think people sound desperate to prove that Darwin was an atheist, but he was not (at least from I have learned). I heard he was an agnostic, too. That means that he did not know if there were a God or gods or not.
I certainly could be wrong about it, since Darwin is no longer alive to ask for certain.

[Hela cells/lab pandemic]

Christine :

I think people sound desperate to prove that Darwin was an atheist.

I’m not desperate to prove anything ! I backed up my assertions about Darwin’s atheism with quotes from Darwin himself, which I contend lend credence to what I’m saying...If anyone seems desperate to prove anything, based on NO EVIDENCE that would be you...

Christine

...he ( Darwin ) was not ( an atheist ) ....at least from I have learned.

Oh well I suppose ( tongue firmly in cheek/sarcasm alert ) that cinches it then

ChristineES:

I heard he was an agnostic, too. That means that he did not know if there were a God or gods or not.

Thanks for that cumbersome definition of ' agnostic'. But I already have a handle on what it means BTW An atheist does not know if God or gods exist either. The Atheist is merely convinced that he/she/they do not. By his own words, that definition of Atheism fits Darwin to a 'T' IMO.

Christine :

I certainly could be wrong about it, since Darwin is no longer alive to ask for certain.

Tut Tut....Why not cite Darwin’s volumous/massive written/ recorded thoughts to support your position. Otherwise, kindly stop insisting ( without a smattering of evidence ) that : ‘ Darwin was NOT an atheist ‘

Your bluff ( and it is a bluff ) has been called...' Pay up or ---- -- ! '

PEACE OUT

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I think people sound desperate to prove that Darwin was an atheist, but he was not (at least from I have learned). I heard he was an agnostic, too. That means that he did not know if there were a God or gods or not.
I certainly could be wrong about it, since Darwin is no longer alive to ask for certain.

Soon it might be easier than you think. Check out the following new web site.

Darwin Correspondence Project - Darwin & religion

[logician]

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Crystalonyx :

Evolution/ the dynamic/ ever changing nature of the entire cosmos IS on solid ( neigh irrefutable ) ground....BUT ...Darwinism/ Darwinian evolution is as full of holes as Swiss Cheese + it stinks to high heaven !

Darwin was the greatest scientist that ever lived, there's no need for this wrongful denigratrion.

[yossarian22]

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Yossarian :

Hmm kinda a weak kneed ' my dog is bigger than your dog ' type response IMO...' full of bluster but signifying NOTHING.' ....BTW and for the record ...MY DOG'S BIGGER !
While you offer sweet didly/ziltch imo....In that parallel thread I provided quotes from a variety of renown mathematicians insisting that blind/ Darwinian evolution was nonsense/ impossible statistically speaking ( see mathematical challenges to Darwinism presented at the Wistar Institute symposium 1966 ) .

I dismembered those a long time ago.
Speak not of that which you do not comprehend.
Just a thought.
I am more than willing to rend your arguments from end to end, since it is very similar to a professor's "Find everything wrong with this argument" style of tests
Given that I expect to see more than a few dozen examples to be posted in this thread, I will respond with DDT mosquito predictions. There will doubtless be more

Meanwhile I will wait for a single prediction to come from ID.
Odds are about as good as me coughing up the hope diamond.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Midnight Blue :

Au contraire ..Darwinism demands gradualism...

I understand that. You have demonstrated very clearly, though, that you don't understand either Darwin or punctuated equilibrium.

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Midnight Blue :

Really ? Kindly, Show me some evidence to support this conclusion. I say you're talking through your hat/ spouting Nonsense !

That's okay. One of the things that makes my life so pleasant is that I never trouble myself about the opinions of the willfully ignorant.

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Calling genocide all but inevitable...This is NOT the position of a fence sitting agnostic , hedging his bets...This is the position of a staunch atheist who recognized no penultimate/ universal morality/ lawmaker/ judge ...and no authority whatsoever greater than man ...

One may doubt whether genocide was inevitable, but there is no doubt that the Abrahamic god not only justifies it, but demands it, and that his followers have often been its enthusiastic proponents.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I think people sound desperate to prove that Darwin was an atheist, but he was not (at least from I have learned). I heard he was an agnostic, too. That means that he did not know if there were a God or gods or not.
I certainly could be wrong about it, since Darwin is no longer alive to ask for certain.

No, you're not wrong. When he was alive, he said very plainly that he was an agnostic and was not and never had been an atheist. However, some people will believe whatever they please regardless of what the facts are; people who make it their business to attack Darwin are always that kind of people.

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by Hela cells/lab pandemic

Furthermore, We do not know if Darwinian evolution underpinned by blind/ purposeless/ random mutation is even possible ( find me a single mathematician who has produced a paper in support of Darwinian evolution ? All the scientific papers, produced by mathematicians I know of...are against it. They essentially assert that ' Darwinian Evolution is impossible !' )

Maybe that is because Evolution is a biological science and mathematicians are not biologists. I would be far more impressed if you could produce a scientific paper by a biologist asserting that 'Darwinian Evolution is impossible!'