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Old 02-22-2008, 12:59 AM
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For you... and mine for me. Okay.

It doesn't help me understand how "personal perception and personal interests" are bad if there is no God (or what this has to do with blistering babies). Unless I"m missing something.

I guess I'm just not drawing a connection.
I am saying that we deem events as good or bad depending on our personal interests and beliefs.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:04 AM
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In other words, if it's to my advantage and my pleasure, murder is okay.
It depends who you ask, which is all that I am trying to say.

In most circumstances, I would say no, but I am sure that there are exceptional circumstances that would make me say yes, and I am sure that there are other people would say yes, too.

A good example would be the death penalty. The families of the victim of the person being killed might say yes, it is okay. There might be some that don't. The family of the accused might say it is not. If I have personal opinions about the event, or capital punishment, I would have my own opinions, too. All of our opinions stem from our personal interests in the event, and/or our experiences.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:07 AM
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In other words, if it's to my advantage and my pleasure, murder is okay.
That's a great mischaracterization.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:11 AM
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It depends who you ask, which is all that I am trying to say.

In most circumstances, I would say no, but I am sure that there are exceptional circumstances that would make me say yes, and I am sure that there are other people would say yes, too.

A good example would be the death penalty. The families of the victim of the person being killed might say yes, it is okay. There might be some that don't. The family of the accused might say it is not. If I have personal opinions about the event, or capital punishment, I would have my own opinions, too. All of our opinions stem from our personal interests in the event, and/or our experiences.
That's called "relativism." I suggest you see the movie The Incredibles.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:22 AM
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That's called "relativism." I suggest you see the movie The Incredibles.
The one with all of the cartoon superheroes?
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:10 AM
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In other words, if it's to my advantage and my pleasure, murder is okay.
It may be okay to you but unless you live in a society that condones murder, it probably won't be okay to anyone else.
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It may be okay to you but unless you live in a society that condones murder, it probably won't be okay to anyone else.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:58 PM
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It may be okay to you but unless you live in a society that condones murder, it probably won't be okay to anyone else.
So what?
Since morality is about our relationship with others, don't you think that other people's opinion might matter?
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Since morality is about our relationship with others, don't you think that other people's opinion might matter?
Why should it matter to an atheist?
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